On 01/03/17 16:26, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
Michael Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:
wrote:

I was looking at some old 813 tubes that were once commonly used for
Amateur radio transmitters, as the final output tube. While the
common
audio output tubes like 6L6 and 807 can produce about 25 to 30 watts
audio output (per tube), running around 300 to 450 volts plate
voltage,



** Versions of the 6L6GC made by RCA and Sylvania can be operated
in pairs in class B with 700V on the plate and 400V on the screens.

Audio output power can be 100W per pair in this mode, with low
distortion.

EL34s can also be used the same way to deliver 100W.

Guitar amps made by MusicMan and Dynacord are commercial examples.


He asked about the 6L6,


** The OP asked about "common audio output tubes" which the original
6L6 is not.

It's an all metal, museum piece.

6L6GCs have been the most common type sold for audio use for decades.



Yes, but the 'Amateur radio transmitters' he's talking about are from
the '40s and '50s, which were shipped with the original metal 6L6, not
the later glass versions.



** Read correctly, the OP was not asking about transmitters at all.

The performance of some common tubes for audio output use was his topic.

QUOTE:

I was looking at some old 813 tubes that were once commonly used for
Amateur radio transmitters, as the final output tube. While the common
audio output tubes like 6L6 and 807 can produce about 25 to 30 watts
audio output (per tube), running around 300 to 450 volts plate voltage,

UNQUOTE:

So you agree, OP was not asking about transmitters?
He also wasn't asking about 6L6's of either type!
(though his reference to 30W/tube says he meant 6L6GC).

He was asking about 813 (transmitting) tubes in an audio amp.

Phil was right. Now can we please end this ****ing match?