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Default Modern car paint and rust

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:19:58 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:45:18 -0500,
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:29:44 -0800 (PST), Garrett Fulton
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On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 1:43:44 PM UTC-5, Christopher Tidy wrote:
Hi folks,

Quick question. Many cars from the 1980s used to rust badly. Sometime in the 1990s, this changed - and quite suddenly. Does anyone know what specific changes were made to the paint composition and surface treatment? I can only find vague allusions in most articles.

Thanks,

Chris

Here's how cheap Ford is. About 15 yrs. ago I was reading the latest Popular Mechanics auto advice column. A guy wrote in with a concern about his oil pressure reading in his new Ford F-150. He said he had noticed when it was started cold, the oil pressure always came up to the exact same level and never decreased once the engine got warm, as his previous pickup had done. The pressure always remained at the exact same place no matter engine temperature or RPM. The auto advice guy at PM said on his year/model of pickup, Ford had replaced the pressure transmitter with a pressure switch with a fixed resistance. When the switch closed, it would always deflect the oil pressure needle to the same location. In other words, an idiot light. As far as I've seen, no other auto manufacturer ever pulled one like that. Saved them what? $1.50 a truck? So, here you are doing 70 on the interstate all day and one or more cam bearings are starting to go. From personal experience, that's always a
gradual decrease of oil pressure. By the time the oil pressure gauge on your P.O.S. Ford pickup drops to zero and the backup idiot light comes on, the engine has been operating way too long on insufficient oil pressure and is likely already trashed. A guy I worked with had a new Ford pickup. I read him the column and he said,"That's just the way my truck acts!". Now I don't know if they still practice this world class chicken^&*(, but I've had my last Ford.

They have virtually ALL done it on at least one model, and it was not
a cost saving measure, in the main. It was because they had customers
complaininh about high cold oil pressure, or low hot idle oil
pressure, and they were all wasting WAY too much time and effort
trying to explain why it was "normal". To avoid class action lawsuits
for faulty oil pressure they simply made a n "idiot guage". Looks like
"higher content" than an idiot light.

I was looking at the oil gauge in my Toyota truck and was a little
concerned that it would show right at the lowest mark when idling. I
wondered if maybe I should start to worry about the truck because it
is a '95. Then upon reading the manual I find that proper oil pressure
when idling is 3 lbs. Now I don't worry.
Eric

Can you immagine being the service manager having to explain that to
half of the paranoid customers at a dealership? They'd be "calling you
anything but a white man", convinced you were lying to them, just
trying to put off repairs untill THEY had to pay because it was off
warranty? THAT is why they invented the "idiot guage"

I went through that as a Toyota service manager many times. On a hot
day the customer would come in complaining the OP guage was reading
half a needle width lower - or after changing the oil - Or they'd come
in complaing the oil pressure was too high and they were told by some
backyard mechanic friend that it would cause the oil to get too hot,
and waste gas - - -