On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:07:21 -0500, Jack wrote:

On 2/19/2017 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:01:22 -0500, Jack wrote:

My wife bought a '79 Honda Accord. It was car of the year. Nice car but
a total rust bucket. EVERYTHING rusted out. Hood, fenders, gas tank,
Strut suspension. I thought my '55 Ford Crown Vic was a rust bucket,
not even close. Honda fixed most of it under warranty, had to lose
money on that one. How does a hood rust? So much for Car of the year crap.

Was there a 1979 car you could buy that WASN'T a total rust bucket??
1855 to 1961 - or even 1969, and 1978 to 1986 just about EVERYTHING
was a rust bucket.

I bought a 1978 GMC Van, and it didn't rust out after about 15 years. I
had it Z-barted immediately after purchase though.

Might have been your salvation, but SOME of the Ziebart treatments
just guaranteed the vehicle WOULD rust - by blocking drainage holes,
and flaking loose after any damage, trapping moisture and salt between
the ziebart film and the metal. Has a LOT of "Ziebart Initiated Rust
Perforation " up here in those years.

In 1982 you could sit on your front porch and listen to your new
Torino rust on the driveway.

Before my wife bought the Accord, she bought a Maveric. I reckon around
1973-4. You absolutely could sit on the porch and listen to it rust away.

They say "they don't make 'em like they used to" - and I say "THANK
GOD!!!!"

Yes, particularly true of cars from the 50's. Bodies were bad, but
motors were pure junk. Well, not sure it was just the motors, motor oil
was junk as well. Tune up every 6 months or year, points, plugs,
condensor, plug wires (never brake fluid though:-)) Complete engine
rebuild after 30 -40,000 miles or so, if anything was left of the car.

My 2001 GMC PU has never been tuned up, runs and starts like it was
brand new. I now wish I would have had the thing Z barted. Outside of
truck looks new, underneath, rust city. Never saw a bumper rust like
this. My SIL stepped on the rear bumper one day (150lbs soaking wet)
and it bent in half. Looked new but underneath it was rust city.

GMC recalled the tailgate straps cause they could rust. No problem with
the bumper, designed to step on to get in the bed, breaking in half. He
could have easily been injured. If it had been me, I would have been
hurt.