On 28/12/16 16:21, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:03:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

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tim... wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
tim... wrote:
Actually you are wrong, we have batteries that are just about good
enough for short range cars. a single order of magnitude might be
enough to fly a commercial electric airliner to the USA.

Short range cars are no good as "main" cars

It depends. If 'they' tax the f**k out of diesels etc or ban them
totally in towns, they might be the only option for commuter journeys.

Yeah right.

Ban petrol cars whilst the alternatives all cost over 40 grand

The Nissan Leaf costs from about 17 grand.

Let the rich drive into town whilst the poor have to walk - gonna be a
real vote winner that, isn't it?

It's already what happens in a capitalist society. I take it you hate that?

Plenty of fast charging points would help too - as would some form of
easily changeable power pack common to all. And it's more likely you
could make a small battery vehicle with a decent range than a large
one at a more economic price.

the cost of the battery is much the same

No it's not. Depends on the capacity.

To get 100% acceptance (which TPTB seem to think is necessary) they
need range and cost no more than current cars

The costs of various types of car - and fuel - is under government
control.

only if you subsidise the capital costs

Or put up the costs of running a petrol/diesel car.

something which might work to start off sales but can't be afforded if
100% of sales are of electric cars

If they become the norm, the prices will fall.

Two orders of magnitude ain't gonna happen with batteries. The ONLY
thing with the sort of energy density is atomic fuel.



well that's not going to happen for domestic transport, is it?

Turnip knows no more about what might happen in the future than anyone
else. And his guesses less well informed than many.

The idea that TPTB are going to let vessels with nuclear fuel in them
run around on normal roads driven by uncle Tom Cobley and all is fantasy

Much of what Turnip says is. Or more accurately, delusion.

He wasn't suggesting that people have nuclear powered cars, but he was
pointing out that only atomic fuel has the energy density necessary to
give cars the ranges to match those of today's ICE cars, with the
implication that battery powered cars with those ranges would never
happen, for obvious reasons.

Don't confuse their pointy little heads with facts...

They don't want Facts, just Something To Believe In.

Bless!