On 12/22/16 1:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:22:10 -0800, ZZyXX
wrote:

The FBI says there were 8,124 gun murders in 2014, the last year with
data. That is down from 8,454 in 2013.

However the CDC says there were 10,945 firearm homicides in 2015

http://www.romans322.com/daily-death...statistics.php says that in
2016, there were 11,226 gun homicides as of 22 Dec

I think I will believe a web site from "FBI.GOV" not Romans.com

Who knows where they get that number and what it includes.

fine, I'll go with the CDC...in any event I've yet to see buford explain
how murders equate with self-defense