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Default Here is what kills people in the United States:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:03:46 -0800, Oren wrote:

Heroin deaths rose 23 percent in one year, to 12,989, slightly higher
than the number of gun homicides, according to government data
released Thursday.


You should know where 12,000 comes from. The FBI says "firearms, all
types, is more like 8,200 (8,454 in 2013, 8,124 in 2014)
The total number of homicides was 12,253 in 2013 and 11,961 in 2014.
That is all weapons, including around 1500 stabbings around 700 bare
hand beatings and a handful of other methods.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2010-2014.xls

I don't mind people saying we have too many murders but they don't
need to lie about it. They should also point out how many are gang
related.