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On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:51:38 -0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 14/12/2016 23:21, Martin Barclay wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 21:12:15 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article . com,
dennis@home wrote:

On 14/12/2016 14:40, Martin Barclay wrote:

And that is because MS, when Gates & Ballmer were in control,
threatened & cajoled OEMs to install MS Windows & /only/ MS Windows on
their computers. They even tried to stop OEMs selling "bare bones" PCs,
on the pretext that "pirated versions of Windows" could be installed.
It's all documented online, as Google search would show.

Its also rubbish.
M$ had discounts available for manufacturers that licensed all their
machines they did for windows.


And once again "dennis" shows his ignorance about what MS actually did.

And how big were these discounts?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/14653.stm

Microsoft €˜killed Dell Linux €“ States
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03..._linux_states/

Cut a deal or you don't get Win95 €“ IBM faces PC suicide
In the months before the launch, MS cut off the air supply
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06...a_deal_or_you/


Hmm a 2002 artical about a trial in 1998 and M$ forcing dell to pull
linux in 2001.

Hmm, why are the dates so strange, could it be bull?

MS paid $50k to buy €˜Compaq of Europe out of DR-DOS deal
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/05...id_50k_to_buy/

A bit like apple licenses its OS on all the machines it makes.

Not like it at all. Apple makes the machine and the O/S for it too.

At no point did they try and force anyone to stop selling bare bones.

If the discounts were large then it amounts to the same thing.


So, "dennis" is saying that the BBC were wrong when they reported it?


Try reading an unbiased report rather than the register which is never
unbiased in case you haven't noticed.

2004 -
Microsoft gets green light to punish OS-less PC vendors.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01...s_green_light/


A judge looked at the terms IBM were claiming forced them to ship
windows and decided that they didn't.
It was up to IBM to decide how much they wanted as a discount and
decided they didn't want to agree to the terms that got them the bigger
discounts.
What exactly is forcing them about that?
They still tried to sell OS2 and not windows and it had nothing to do
with linux or bare machines.


Stoppit, you're showing sense in the DIY group.

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