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Default Oregon official who bullied Christian bakery owners loseselection

On 11/27/2016 6:38 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 11:32:15 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/26/2016 7:00 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 2:20:51 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/25/2016 12:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/25/2016 11:01 AM, Muggles wrote:

First you claim it involves hormones. Then you tell us it's just a
choice.

What don't you get? It's basic growth of humans... we're born BABIES
having a gender. We have to go through adolescence and at that time our
hormones begin to manifest. At that time we become aware of our
sexuality, AND we make choices based on all the information we're
exposed to. As we mature we become responsible for the choices we make
because the law has set an age of consent and responsibility, which,
doesn't negate the fact that even as children we make choices and are
still responsible for those choices, too.

Our lives are filled with choices and every time we act on anything it's
because we made a choice from our available options.


Many of those choices are from environmental tips we've seen in life but
you are ignoring heredity and genetics as factors in our growth. The way
our body was formed from the union of egg and sperm affects what we are.
It is more than just choices.


How do you explain heredity and genetics when it comes to siblings
turning out completely different from each other? It's the choices they
make individually.



1. Siblings are not genetically identical


That was my point. Combine that with the choices people make and you
have no 2 people who are the same for multiple reasons. It still boils
down to people aren't born gay. It's a result of the choices they make.

2. Epigenetics is a powerful force. You should investigate it.


I have.

I don't know why I bother to reply, really. You can't be reasoned
out of a position that you weren't reasoned into.


If the only reason you respond is to try to change my mind, that's the
wrong reason to respond.

I've no goal to change anyone elses mind when I explain my point of view.



Yet your stated goal is to impose your religion on other people. Forgive
us if we try to dissuade you from that.


You misunderstand. My goal is to take back our religious freedoms. We
want to be ALLOWED to pray in public - that's just one right I want
restored.

Let's do some math. 70.6% of Americans are professed Christian.
29.4% of 318.9 million is... 93.75 million Americans are not Christian.
That's a pretty big number. Too big to allow the majority to ride
roughshod over our rights.


We live in a Constitutional Republic, and our Constitution guarantees
freedom of religion, in addition to, our country was founded on
Christian principles, to which, had been recognized since this countries
birth. It's only been the last decade +/- that liberals have done
everything they can to take our religious freedoms away. We're going to
take them back.

If anyone doesn't like the expression of someone's Christian faith, they
can look away. No one is forcing them to participate.


Especially given that quite a fair few of
those majority Christians are not opposed to other religions (or to
lack of religion).


Our country was based on Christian principles and part of those
principles include freedom of religion.

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Maggie