On Thursday, November 24, 2016 at 1:31:17 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/24/2016 9:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/23/2016 9:01 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:56:56 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/22/2016 7:18 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles formulated the question :
On 11/22/2016 4:32 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles submitted this idea :
On 11/22/2016 4:13 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles formulated the question :
I believe it's wrong to label gay, or any other combination of union
"marriage". Marriage was an institution created by God to join
one man
and one woman in matrimony, and it reflects the relationship between
Gods church and his people. Any other combination is not "marriage",
and a perversion of the institution God created.

Superstition and fairy tales, what a great foundation for
legislation in
a secular government.


Faith and deeply held respect for what God created is not superstition.


Superstition substantiated by fairy tales. Impressive.


Faith ... There's nothing impressive about rejecting God.

Something has to actually exist before it can be rejected. You and the
other non-secular whack-a-doodles have conjured deities, pretend they
are real and attempt to use them to persuade other people to do and give
you what you want.


Actually, a bunch of us have spoken via the ballot box. We have a hope
and a future in this country.


I see, so Trump is going to now force religion on all of us? He's
a pious bible thumper? I saw him totally fumble up that Corinthians BS,
while trying to con the christian right into voting for him.
You would think that would be
enough to convince the religious Trumpets that he's a fake, phony fraud.
He's said he's not going to do anything to change the SC ruling on abortion. Was he lying then?

Trump now has the power to change America by appointing justices to the
Supreme Court who are conservative and by doing so they will have a say
which way the court votes on future cases brought before them.

It is my hope people of faith will bring law suits that go to the
Supreme Court that will overturn various liberal policies that have
taken our country down into the gutter.

We... people like me, who voted for Trump, intend on taking back our
country in more ways than one.



Sorry, Trump just told you on 60 Mins that the issue of gay marriage is now
irrelevant. "It's done". And it's obvious that Trump never really ever gave
a rat's ass about gay marriage, abortion, or similar. He was pro abortion
until he needed your vote. Ever see Trump donate any money to your christian
causes? To pro-life groups?

Do you really think it's settled? Nope! Not by a long shot.

Your boy Trump said so, and for you Trumpets, he can do no wrong.

It's about as settled as slavery. Not just here, but in most of the
rest of the developed world. Look at the countries with the most freedom,
the values consistent with ours. UK, Canada, France, Spain, Brazil,
Ireland, 21 in total, they recognize gay marriage. Which countries
don't? Russia, China, Iran, North Korea,.....

In years to
come conservative justices will be on the SC thanks to TRUMP, and they
will have the opportunity to reverse many decisions that liberals passed
years before them. I'm patient, and have been known to wait years for
one thing or another to happen. I will see this happen, too.

The SC has never been quick to take up the same issue again, certainly
not in just a few years, once it's been settled. How have the similar
attempts gone to reverse ROEvWade? You had 8 years of Reagan, 4 of Bush,
8 more of Bush 43 and what happened?




And the SC isn't likely to want to take another case, revisit the whole thing
again, having just made the ruling. It would be unprecedented.


How do you think civil rights laws were changed here in the US? The SC
"interpreted" the Constitution in a more liberal light. Sometimes, they
get it right, and sometimes they'll get it wrong. Religious freedom is
a major tenant of our Constitution and cases specifically put into the
court system for the sole purpose of changing laws like the definition
of marriage will be revisited to the SC, and the next time we won't
lose. Marriage will return to being defined as being between one man
and one woman, and any other combination will be called something else
with it's own regulations and rules. That's just ONE thing conservative
judges will do in the future.



DReam on. And that wasn't the point. The point is that it's very rare
for the SC to take up the same issue again, in just a few years. The
toothpaste is out of the tube and you're not going to put it back.
What SC would want to wade into the bizarre world that we'd have if
this were now reversed? What would become of those millions of gay
marriages already in existence? And as I pointed out already, this
isn't just a US rights thing. Gay marriage is now the law in 21 other
countries, modern countries, like the UK (where did our principles, our
values, our laws come from?), France, Norway, Spain, Brazil. Should
we be with them on this issue or with Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia
and the backward third world countries?
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Maggie