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Muggles[_15_]

On 11/24/2016 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:31:18 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

On 11/24/2016 9:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/23/2016 9:01 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:56:56 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/22/2016 7:18 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles formulated the question :
On 11/22/2016 4:32 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles submitted this idea :
On 11/22/2016 4:13 PM, Sterling Archer wrote:
Muggles formulated the question :
I believe it's wrong to label gay, or any other combination of union
"marriage". Marriage was an institution created by God to join
one man
and one woman in matrimony, and it reflects the relationship between
Gods church and his people. Any other combination is not "marriage",
and a perversion of the institution God created.

Superstition and fairy tales, what a great foundation for
legislation in
a secular government.

Faith and deeply held respect for what God created is not superstition.

Superstition substantiated by fairy tales. Impressive.

Faith ... There's nothing impressive about rejecting God.

Something has to actually exist before it can be rejected. You and the
other non-secular whack-a-doodles have conjured deities, pretend they
are real and attempt to use them to persuade other people to do and give
you what you want.

Actually, a bunch of us have spoken via the ballot box. We have a hope
and a future in this country.

I see, so Trump is going to now force religion on all of us? He's
a pious bible thumper? I saw him totally fumble up that Corinthians BS,
while trying to con the christian right into voting for him.
You would think that would be
enough to convince the religious Trumpets that he's a fake, phony fraud.
He's said he's not going to do anything to change the SC ruling on abortion. Was he lying then?

Trump now has the power to change America by appointing justices to the
Supreme Court who are conservative and by doing so they will have a say
which way the court votes on future cases brought before them.

It is my hope people of faith will bring law suits that go to the
Supreme Court that will overturn various liberal policies that have
taken our country down into the gutter.

We... people like me, who voted for Trump, intend on taking back our
country in more ways than one.

Sorry, Trump just told you on 60 Mins that the issue of gay marriage is now
irrelevant. "It's done". And it's obvious that Trump never really ever gave
a rat's ass about gay marriage, abortion, or similar. He was pro abortion
until he needed your vote. Ever see Trump donate any money to your christian
causes? To pro-life groups?

Do you really think it's settled? Nope! Not by a long shot. In years to
come conservative justices will be on the SC thanks to TRUMP, and they
will have the opportunity to reverse many decisions that liberals passed
years before them. I'm patient, and have been known to wait years for
one thing or another to happen. I will see this happen, too.

And the SC isn't likely to want to take another case, revisit the whole thing
again, having just made the ruling. It would be unprecedented.

How do you think civil rights laws were changed here in the US? The SC
"interpreted" the Constitution in a more liberal light. Sometimes, they
get it right, and sometimes they'll get it wrong. Religious freedom is
a major tenant of our Constitution and cases specifically put into the
court system for the sole purpose of changing laws like the definition
of marriage will be revisited to the SC, and the next time we won't
lose. Marriage will return to being defined as being between one man
and one woman, and any other combination will be called something else
with it's own regulations and rules. That's just ONE thing conservative
judges will do in the future.

Muggles??? I think you are just about as befuddled as Sterling and
Trader - and your disenchantment with Trump 4 years from now will be
close to that of Sterling's disenchantment with Theism.

I really don't think I'm going to be disenchanted with Trump in 4 years.
If he does half of the things he wanted to do.. if he actually gets
something done at all, I'll be happy. From the way things are looking
his first 100 days is being planned out now, and I'm thinking the man is
going to get plenty done.

The man (Trump) is a charlatton and an opportunist.
His appointments to the supreme court are unlikely to be anything
close to what you are dreaming they will be.

A conservative will do fine. Multiple conservatives over his first 4
years will be even better.

As dishonest and crooked as the man is, he MIGHT just avoid ending up
the"worst US President in History" by riding the middle road, and
actually completing many of the initiatives the rebs blocked in the
last 8 years.

The man is no "christian", no "republican" and no "conservative"

The man is a wheeler dealer, and will actually get something done.

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Maggie