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Default Oregon official who bullied Christian bakery owners loses election

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 6:29:22 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 11/23/2016 5:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/23/2016 2:23 PM, Muggles wrote:

The First Amendment says nothing about being entitled to being free of
exposure to religion.


No one made an assertion to the contrary. You are attempting to move the
goal post.

On the contrary ... you and others attempt to imply that our
Constitution also grants the right to discriminate against expressions
of faith in public.



No one said that from what I've seen. You can stand in front of your
house or go to church and talk about your beliefs. What we don't want
is to have it forced on us in secular government gatherings.


Any gathering is a combination of people both secular and spiritual.
The government should allow those who are spiritual to express their
beliefs at government gatherings.... Prayer! Thanking God for blessings
on our country, etc.

This country was formed based on such freedoms, and we shouldn't ignore
that.


You are the one ignoring freedoms. Why is it that you just have to have
your prayer session at a govt meeting? Why can't you do it before, or
after? How about I want to make a speech about gun rights? Someone else
wants to make speeches about animal rights? Someone else wants to make
a speech about aliens among us? All those are constitutionally protected,
deeply held beliefs among those involved. So, why shouldn't the town
meeting allow all those too? We can do that, or we can do what is far
more logical and reasonable. Keep the town meeting, the school meetings,
etc focused on their business and you do your praying elsewhere.




If I go to a wedding in a church they can do whatever service they
choose. I make the decision to attend or not. If I go to a town
meeting, I don't want a religious service.


Prayer is not a religious service.


ROFL


Acknowledging God is not a religious
service, either.


ROFL