Man, there has to be one in every group.....

I have to agree that you can discharge a battery TOO much. Waiting for it
to go completely dead all the time, is not good. That is not what I was
saying. I was saying that people would use it for only a few hours, before
the phone had even hardly discharged, and then put it back on the charger.
I can could many cases that where this is true.

1.) My Step Daughter has the same Cell phone I have. She would place it
back on the charger not too long after she got home. Eventually after a few
months, her phone would be lucky to last a day before it died. She went
through three batteries before taking my suggestion. But she still wouldn't
take it till I put my battery on her phone, and it lasted 3 days straight
(before I took it back). so now, she has been using the same battery for
over a year, and still has no problem with it.

2.) My mom had a cordless phone that did the same thing, using batteries
right and left. The charge was lucky to last a few hours. She was about
ready to buy a new phone (My mom is bull headed also). She was not going to
waste any more money on batteries. So I bought her one, and told her to let
it stay off the hook (charger) after the initial charge. So she did what I
said, and her phone lasted a few more years (Till she dropped it while
building their new house), never replacing the battery again. Not to
mention her phone would last almost 2 days off the charger, before needing a
charge (It was an older AT&T cordless, you know the type that you had to
pull the antenna up)

I could come up with many other ones, but will try to keep it short. I my
self have been working with NiCad's for over 25 years, and have seen the
result of mis-charging the battery.

Now, there is another type of Rechargeable battery that does not develop a
memory, but the name slips my mind. I have never used them, so I can't say
if it is true or not, but they became big in the flip phone age, where the
NiCad Batts would develop the memory, and be useless.

Rick

"John Miller" wrote in message
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Ricky Eck wrote:
My Phone does the same thing. Mostly when the battery is going out. I
just replace the battery, and most of the time, after a full charge on a
new
battery, it will work for a couple more years. Problem I have with
mine,
is I tell everyone to leave it off the charger, till it needs to be
charged. But they will use it for an hour or so, and place it back on
the
charger. The battery develops the memory in it, and reduces the battery
life.

Interesting. I've been carrying and using NiCd devices for well over a
quarter of a century, so I've got a fair amount of experience, plus having
heard lots and LOTS of both opinion and fact about the care and feeding of
NiCd. Bottom line: the "memory effect" is highly overrated, and what many
people think is the memory effect is actually the result of
over-discharge.

"...work for a couple more years?" I've got a couple of residential
portable phones that receive no special treatment at all (just hang up the
phone when you're done) with 10-year-old batteries.

How can that be? Everyone "knows" that NiCds must be discharged fully
each
time, to avoid the memory effect. Or could it be that the cure
(discharging) is worse than the disease?

I really think that must be the case. After all, portable phones receive
the worst possible (by conventional wisdom) treatment, being constantly on
charge, and never discharged fully, and yet the batteries just keep going,
and going and going...

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