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Plenty of reasons why nuisance laws should allow for what
has been allowed for centurys before the laws were written.


Laws forbidding undesirable practices have forever been a way of improving the
people's lot and civilising society.


Church bell ringing is not an undesirable practice and if it is decided that it
has become an undesirable practice,


By parliament.

the law should say that explicitly, like it did with slavery, beating the wife,
child prostitution, female genital mutilation etc etc etc.


Church bell ringing is not per se an undesirable practice, however pointless and
useless it is. It is only an undesirable practice when it results in emission of
noise that amounts to a Statutory Nuisance, so that's what the law prohibits.


That law doesn’t in fact prohibit any ringing of church bells.

It's a measured, balanced approach to the problem,


It is completely stupid that prats like you can complain to
the local authority about a church ringing its bells and have to
investigate that complaint and tell you to shove your complaint
where the sun don’t shine in suitably bureaucratic language
because that is a complete waste of everyone's time.

for which bell ringers in particular should be grateful.


They arent that stupid.

It allows them to continue


The legislation should have said that explicitly
with church bells being exempted explicitly.


It didn't intend to, so it didn't. Tough if you don't like it.

And with the caterwauling from mosques banned explicitly.

but only provided they show consideration for their neighbours.


Wrong, as always. Their neighbours should have enough of a
clue to check what churches are within earshot and not move
to where they can be heard if you don’t like to hear church bells.


Bell ringers have no right to decide where I or anyone else lives. They do,
however, have an obligation under the law not to create a nuisance for anyone.

Prats like you don’t get to show up and proclaim that the churches
must stop doing what they have been doing for centurys and the
legislation should have said the explicitly too.


The law says what it says, and it says what I said it says. If you don't like it,
you'll have to campaign to get it changed.

Bell ringers are not above the law. They don't have any special exemption or
privileges.

And the law says, whether you like it or not, that I can complain if I consider
church bells are a nuisance.