"Bod" wrote in message
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On 17/10/2016 19:16, Bod wrote:
On 17/10/2016 18:32, Rod Speed wrote:


"Bod" wrote in message
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On 17/10/2016 18:16, Rod Speed wrote:


"Bod" wrote in message
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On 17/10/2016 16:06, Clive George wrote:
On 17/10/2016 15:12, Bod wrote:
"Afford the luxury"??

If your system is running into swap, it will be slower than it
needs to
be. It's not so much affording the luxury, as affording the
basics.

TNP might be happy running gridwatch on a cheese-pared setup, but
memory
is really very cheap these days, so anybody doing this sort of
thing for
a living will do it properly - which for most servers means
running in
memory. (there are probably exceptions, I've just not hit them
yet,
but
I do have a fairly wide experience of servers...)

The price depends on what type of memory. 32GB of DDR4 2600 mhz
for my
laptop is £171. I wouldn't call that cheap.

If you're doing this for a living and running something which needs
32GB
of memory, 171 quid is cheap. You're neither doing it for a living
nor
do you need anything like that, so you think it's expensive.

You probably also think over 500 quid for a laptop is expensive :-)

(basic reasoning is pretty much that if you're doing it for a
living,
other costs will dwarf it, and if you need it you'll either be
making
rather more than that or saving enough time to make it worth it.)

Has TNP posted how much his gridwatch server has? For comparison, I
think the cheapest lowest spec Azure VM is 3.5GB, and that will
all be
available as full speed memory if you use it.


My latest laptop cost £900.

So it was stupid to not have more than 8GB of ram
in it and to close apps when you stop using them.

Because that's the amount that was in it when I bought it.
I'm gonna get another 24GB of ram anyway.

So you ****ed your money against the wall on the SSD
and will get no advantage from it once you have 32GB
of ram, dont close apps when you stop using them and
dont stupidly turn the system off every day.

Tell me how fast you can load a pagefull of, say, photos from a
mechanical drive?
*displaying large icons*
I click on my SSD and they all show within a fraction of a second.

I'm not stupid enough to look at them that way on the desktop/laptop.

I do that on the smartphone I took them on and they are
instantly available there and are much more convenient
to send to anywhere I need to send them from there.