Dad told of going to the state fair when a young man and one exhibit
had a big safe that was opened in reverse. :-)

A soldering fire was started inside and the door was closed.

The fire consumed all of the oxygen in the air and the save imploded.

Just a thought. I think the save was shambles but good items inside
would be ok.

Martin

On 10/2/2016 6:43 PM, Neon John wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 09:53:29 -0500, Ignoramus4179
wrote:

Both locked closed safes are, in my opinion, worth nothing. One is
already ruined as the hinges are cut off. Another is not lookin super
great and not worth a few hours of picking. Since we do not know how
to do it, it will take a long time.

picking a good combination safe is for all practical purposes
impossible. When I worked for the government I got them to buy me a
mail order locksmith course. Excellent course. started a lifelong
interest in locksmithing.

Quality locks arrange things so the cam doesn't ride on the wheels. IT
drops only when you turn the handle. In that case the wheels have
false notches to foil picking.

The professional method is to drill at a certain point and remove the
hinge pin from the follower. A certified 'smith can buy a book
containing drill location templates for hundreds of different types of
safes.

Plus I want to practice safecracking, if feels vaguely exciting, like
riding a rollercoaster. I know that it is not illegal to break into
those safes, but it feels a bit like an adventure.

One thing to be aware of is that a number of people who keep
especially valuable things in their safes load it with a pyrotechnic,
usually a pound of black powder in a silk bag. This is aimed at
giving the brute force crackers a little surprise.

John


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