On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:38:11 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:24:58 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:14:49 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:12:15 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 1:55:59 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 1:48:53 PM UTC-4, Sam E wrote:
On 09/12/2016 12:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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BTW...I would get a receptacle tester and check the existing 3 prong
receptacles to see if a ground is actually present. If not, I'd check
for an upstream GFCI. If neither are present, then you have a installation
that does not meet code and could present a danger to you and your family.
Some danger, especially in places where someone may be wet. There's no
more danger than when using adapters with no ground.
There definitely could be more danger. When you're using an adaptor
and don't care about the lack of ground, you know there is no ground,
or should know it. When someone puts a ground type receptacle in
with no ground, then it appears to everyone to be a grounded type.
If you were somewhere on a damp basement or garage floor and saw a
ground type receptacle, and had a tool, an extension cord with ground
what would most people think and do?
You are assuming that the user knows about electricity. I can "almost
certainly" guarantee that I could find someone - without looking very
hard - that has no clue why an adapter exists other than to let you
plug a 3 prong plug into a 2 prong receptacle. "Oh look, isn't that
convenient".
No, I never made that assumption. I specifically said:
"When you're using an adapter and don't care about the lack of ground, you know there is no ground, or should know it. "
I was referring to all the other people who have no clue, not the original
"installer". There are lots of people who never even *think* about
the presence of a ground when they see a 3 prong receptacle or adapter.
And I was also referring to people other than the original installer
who decide to use an adapter and not ground it. Either they know
using the adapter that way leaves whatever is plugged into it
ungrounded or they should know it. When you're using something you
should know what it is and how it works.
They just "plug and play".
I'm sure there are plenty of people like that. I suppose they should
sell those adapters packaged so there is a warning on them, or putting
a warning tag on them would be a good idea. Actually IDK how they
are packaged and sold, haven't bought one in decades.
Just for fun, I went looking for an image of the packaging for an adapter.
I didn't find a package (didn't look too hard), but I did find this rather
scary image:
http://i.stack.imgur.com/jTqrx.jpg
Is it just me or are they showing the ground lug being attached to the
cover screw of a receptacle where no ground is present?
I clicked on the "Visit Page" button at G-images, and it took me to the
following discussion. The OP is exactly the type of person I was referring
to: He notes that the adapters are "handy" but he has no clue about their
proper usage.
http://diy.stackexchange.com/questio...-prong-adapter