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On Friday, 9 September 2016 14:50:32 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote:
On 09/09/2016 13:59, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:


I think one of the hardest things in history is to try to understand
what people thought of Hitler in the 30's.


That is quite easy. The Great Depression started in 1929 and continued
for most countries until the late 30's.

There were no state benefits payable to anyone who was out of work. We
have also conveniently forgotten who invented and ran the banking
system. They were vilified in much the same way bankers are today for
the 2007/8 bank bailouts. People lost their life saving and the blame
was firmly placed on bankers at that time. In those days bankers were
not a protected characteristic.

Hitler had various socialist policies. One of which was a Christian
tradition that interest should not be charged, and that there should be
no return on capital; where only labours were remunerated. If Corbyn
adopted those policies, who knows!

On top of that Hitler spent his way out any economic disaster, the
opposite of austerity and used the resource to arm Germany.

I'm sure he considered himself to be something of a socialist, as
least as far as native Germans were concerned.


He was very much a socialist and was voted in on that basis.


I always understood the main reason he was voted in


He never was voted in as Chancellor.

is he was the only one giving Germany a hope of being great, when
it was in such poverty that many had nothing like enough to eat.


Germany was never like that.

AIUI he made no secret of his more lunatic views,


And many who did vote for his party didnt even know about them.

but did have some smart insights in some respects,
and thus people bought into his vision as one of hope.


And he did deliver on that hope, reviving the economy
quite dramatically using absolutely classic Keynesian
deficit spending, same as FDR did in the US.

The problem for Germany was that there was no way to
pay for that, the massive military machine had to be used.

Of course they had little clue what would really happen & how.


Just like no one else did as WW2 started.