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Default I wuz Wrong - was they should have etc etc

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 3:47:49 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 8/31/2016 2:27 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:13:10 -0500, Muggles wrote:

What I don't agree with is they are (or should be) held to a higher
standard. They are human beings doing a job that at times puts their life
at risk. That must be considered during any investigation.


Well, they are human beings who have been highly trained to respond to a
multitude of encounters and are very aware of the risks when they
graduate from the academy.

I do believe when someone is highly trained they should be held
accountable to the standard for which they were trained. In the case of
LE, their accountability increases with the level of knowledge they obtain.

Those people who have no training can't be held accountable for what
they've never been taught. OTOH, those who ARE trained should be held
accountable for what THEY are taught.

It's a reasonable conclusion that LE will be held to a higher standard
of accountability since they've achieved a higher standard of education.

Don't you agree?



Absolutely not. You've asked that question several different ways and I've
answered it the same each time.


What I've actually done is analyze the process by which reasonable
expectations for performance by highly trained LE would be, and why
those expectations that I've stated previously are accurate.

Give it a ****ing rest!


I'm assessing how you reason things out.

Evidently, you don't expect highly trained people to live up to their
training level.

Why bother to train LE, if there is no real expectation of them actually
performing their jobs at the training level they've received?

We might as well put untrained people in police uniforms and have no
expectations on performance, after all, police are "only" humans doing a
difficult job.

I don't care if you agree or not, but you've shown your reasons to
objecting with my expectations of LE performance are only emotional on
your part. You've no realistic expectations that LE should live up to
their training.

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Maggie


You have absolutely no basis for concluding that LE didn't live up to their training in this incident. The cop tried to pull over a speeder. It turned
into a high speed felony pursuit, that ended with both cars damaged, the
cop car smoking, the perp's car spun out. That's what appears to have
happened from the very limited info. What happened in the period
immediately following, no one knows because there is no information,
no witness testimony, no statement from the cops, no cameras. All we
have is your delusions, what you made up in your mind.

BTW how does the high speed pursuit square with similar delusions you
tried to sell here, about the perp just being a deaf guy, who didn't
know the cops were following him or just wanted to drive to a safe place
to pull over? Most people can learn from their mistakes, but you're
one of the exceptions. It looks like the dead, deaf guy was another one.