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On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 1:22:46 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
formulated on Friday :
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:00:23 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa
wrote:

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 6:09:01 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 8/25/2016 10:13 AM, bob_villa wrote:


If access to the roof was considered a "confined space", Mormy should have
reported to a manager. That manager is responsible to check on him
"regularly" according to OSHA regs.


A roof with only the sky above is not a confined space though. One of
the reasons it is covered by regulation is lack of oxygen from chemicals
in the confined space. Not much chance of it happening on a roof.

I've had roof acess in places I worked and there was no regulation, no
checking with anyone. Up the stairs and open the door.

Roofers have other regulations but they would probably not apply, not
that would they help since he did not fall off.

It does meet criteria: "A confined space is a space large enough for a
worker to enter, is not designed for "continuous employee occupancy," and
has limited means for entry and exit".

https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2015/...-Standard.aspx
The access location MAY meet the definition of confined space, but I
doubt a several thousand square foot open rooftop would.

From your own cite :

A permit-required confined space (PRCS) is a confined space with one
or more of the following characteristics:
Contains or has a potential to contain a hazardous atmosphere
Contains a material that has the potential for engulfing an entering
employee
Has an internal configuration such that an employee could be trapped
or asphyxiated by inwardly converging walls or by a downward-sloping
floor
Contains any other recognized serious safety or health hazard5
Which of the above 4 conditions does an open roof comply with???


Contains or has a potential to contain a hazardous atmosphere.


If an "open roof" can *contain* a hazardous atmosphere, then the entire
planet is pretty much a confined space.