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"Bob La Londe" wrote in :


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I needed to shorten the tailpiece for a bathroom sink drain: chrome-plated
brass tube 1.250
OD with 0.030" wall. Obviously the tool of choice would be a tubing
cutter, right? Except that
my tubing cutter has a maximum opening of 1.220", despite being labeled as
"1-1/4". Grrrr.

OK, no problem, I'll chuck it up in the metal lathe and part it off.
Should be easy, right?

No sooner does the parting tool start removing stock, than the tube begins
slowly but
inexorably sliding out of the chuck. Not crooked or anything like that,
still concentric, just
creeping slowly in the direction of the tailstock. OK, maybe I didn't
tighten the chuck enough.
Stop the lathe, reseat the tube in the chuck, make sure it's darn good and
tight, try again.

Same thing. I get maybe 0.0005" (that's right, half a thou) removed,
before the tube begins
sliding again.

I tried low rpm, high rpm, slow feed, rapid feed, lots of oil, no oil --
no difference that I could
see.

After 45 minutes, I finally got it turned down far enough to slip it into
the tubing cutter, after
which it took about 45 seconds to complete the cut.

Why is this happening? And, more importantly, how can I prevent it? This
was number 1 of
two pieces that I have to shorten by the same amount.


Which way was it creeping? If out, then just set the lip on the tube up
against the back of the chuck jaws, and use a bullnose center in the end.


Creeping out. I don't have a bullnose center that large.

If slipping in,


It can't. This is a small lathe (7x14 mini), and the chuck is too small to allow anything beyond
about 5/8" to pass through it.

put a block of wood inside the chuck behind it, and tighten
down the screws of your spider to keep the block from moving. If you don't
have spider bolts on the back of your lathe spindle it might be time to add
them. Never know when you might need to do some turning on a rifle barrel
next.


:-) That's probably not in my future, not with this lathe anyway.

I would suspect it was slipping in because the end with the lip would be
more rigid effectively making your tube into a cone with the large end at
the lip when you clamp down.


I had to chuck it with the lip outward, away from the chuck: the lip apparently isn't perfectly
square to the axis of the tube, and it wobbled pretty badly.

But that may explain why it was creeping outward -- in the direction of the lip.

Personally I would have probably cut it on the bandsaw or with a hacksaw,


I would have, too, except that those tools are currently about fifteen miles away. We're in the
process of rehabbing another house, to downsize into, and almost all of my hand tools and
portable power tools are over there.

and then debuirred it with a file, or deburring tool depending on what was
handy. There is a huge amount of overlap in the joints of that type of
fitting, and it doesn't have to be very precise at all.

Lots of tools could have done the job. Tail pipe cutter. Pipe cutter.


Don't have.

Tubing cutter.


Don't have one big enough.

Hacksaw. Bandsaw.


At the other house.

Abbrassive saw.


Don't have.

Dremel tool.


Didn't think about that. Thanks! We do have cutoff wheels for that.

Jigsaw. Sawzall.


At the other house.

That style fitting and assembley is designed with ease of use in mind.
Hence the huge overlap. As long as it reaches past the geasket, and doesn't
have any burrs to catch hair and clog its fine.