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On 18/08/16 14:45, bert wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
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On 18/08/16 11:28, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:01:56 +0100
Chris Hogg wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:38:52 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:42:27 +0100
Chris Hogg wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:02:26 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:


"Davey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:49:36 +0100
"tim..." wrote:

She forgets to mention the cost of Hornsea 1 power, as
agreed, at £140 per megawatt-hr.

That was then...

But is still the price they will be paid. Unless it gets
increased to account for inflation.

The point is it's the agreed price for H1.

The agreed price for H2 could be anything

The assumption that it is the same as H1 is false.


Well I wouldn't say it could be anything, but H2 could well be a
little lower than H1. The Government has set strike prices for
offshore wind of £150 for 2016/17, £140 for 2017/18 and £135 for
2017/18. http://tinyurl.com/jpaezrq So I guess it depends on when
the contract with the generator begins, and there may be some
negotiating around those prices, I don't know, but I doubt the
actual strike prices agreed will deviate far from them.


What is the situation for the oft-quoted £95 for Hinckley? Is it the
price for now, to be adjusted, or the price whenever it finally goes
online?

£92.5 @ 2012 prices. Customers pay nothing until the power plant is
operational. The contract will last for 35 years, the strike price is
fully indexed to inflation through the CPI. Read all about it
http://tinyurl.com/h84n2ba


Thank you. A good clear answer.

£16 billion. How many of those could we build for the price of one HS2?

Dunno. What's the latest estimates on HS2? £45bn?

So about three. Enough to replace the entire existing nuclear fleet.

To actually create what I would consider the correct and most cost
effective amount of nuclear power - around 30GW - would be achieved
with 10 Hinkleys at £160bn, or 10 ABWRs at about £30bn.

Assuming the government had the guts to tell the greens to **** off,
and rammed the project through.




I'm not too optimistic about that. The same old cycle seems to be
repeating itself
Decide to build nuclear
Oh my god, How much?
Decide to have a review
Look at all the alternative nuclear options just emerging
Kick the can down the road.


AS long as we frack instead, it buys us a generation that we can educate
into the realities of nuclear power.

The terrifying prospect is that we do neither.


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