Dave Plowman (News) wrote
tim... wrote
alan_m wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote
harry wrote:

http://www.theunituk.org.uk/2016/07/...els-over-ceta/

And it's going to be ever so easy for the UK to make deals with all the
other countries in the world, we've been told, as we don't need the EU.

Recently the Canadian official in charge of the negotiation said that
the UK would be part of CETA because it would still be in the EU when
it was ratified within the next 1/2 years and hinted when exiting the
EU the trade deal would may still be valid between Canada and the UK.

There would be nothing to stop us unilaterally
withdrawing from it, if that were to be the case.

(Whether we might want to, or not, is another matter)

The thing so many don't seem to appreciate
is just how long trade deals take to set up.

Don’t need any trade deals initially. Britain is free to trade under
the WTO rules just like all of the USA, India, China, Korea, Taiwan,
Bangladesh, Canada, Australia etc etc etc all do fine right now.
That is the whole point of the WTO rules.

You're talking about 5 years plus of intensive negotiations.

Clearly the reason they take a while is because
there is no great urgency about them. And they
arent in fact all that intensive either.

And if anything important changes in either country's
circumstances (like a deal with another country), you
may well have to start again.

That doesn’t happen often.

It is simply not just a handshake over a pint one night.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

Oh - May has admitted the UK simply doesn't have anything
like enough trained negotiators for new trade deals.

That is very arguable given that there have been plenty of
Brits doing that for the EU. Less clear what they will chose
to do with Britain leaving the EU, return to Britain and keep
doing that stuff for Britain or stay in the EU and give up on
Britain because they like the EU more than they do Britain.

Not surprising, as they've all had to be
done in conjunction with the EU before.

In fact it was often Brits working for the EU doing it.

And doing a deal with inexperience negotiators
is a sure way to get stitched up.

They wouldn’t be inexperience negotiators
if they were the ones doing it for the EU.

And no one can get stitched up when whatever has got agreed
still has to be legislated by the respective parliaments.

I find it laughable just how naive so many are on here. That they reckon
the entire world is queueing up to be nice to the UK in any deals.

No one has ever said anything like that, you silly little pathological liar.

Commonwealth countrys would obviously like to see a return to the
sort of deal that they had with Britain before it joined the EEC and
there would be no negotiation needed on that, just decide to do it.

And you keep ignoring the fact that Britain doesn’t need any deals
at all, its free to trade under the WTO rules, just like all of the USA,
India, China, Korea, Taiwan, Bangladesh, Canada, Australia etc etc
etc all do fine right now.