On 7/18/2016 7:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 5:47:35 PM UTC-4, John McGaw wrote:
On 7/18/2016 3:26 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 2016-07-18 3:00 PM, John McGaw wrote:
On 7/18/2016 11:38 AM, Leon wrote:
On 7/18/2016 9:19 AM, John McGaw wrote:
On 7/17/2016 4:16 PM, BenignBodger wrote:
On 7/16/2016 11:28 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm getting ready to order some bed rail fasteners. I'd prefer that
the
fasteners not be visible from the outside of the bed, i.e. no bolts.

I used this style in the past (~20 years ago) and really like them.
They've
held up well and pull the rails in tight. I'm considering using them
again,
unless someone has something they like better.

http://www.rockler.com/heavy-duty-wr...ck-select-size






I also ran across these which look promising:

http://www.rockler.com/locking-safety-bed-rail-brackets

Any thoughts on which one would be better, or maybe even something
else?

Thanks!


I most recently used these http://www.cshardware.com/15-74-5.html and
before that similar more-expensive ones from a different vendor which I
can't recall at the moment. The fasteners are very strong and are
among the
most easy to install since they have nicely rounded ends so a router
cut
makes the mortise with no hand work needed beyond a few clearance
holes for
the tabs and some holes for the screws. I can install a pair of them
in a
few minutes (now that I have the hardboard jig finished, of course).

I went onto my alternate NNTP server in an attempt to send you a snap of
the simple jig but for some reason none of your posts show up on
Easynews so I can't properly reply there. In any case, here is the
picture. As you can see it is about as simple as you could imagine --
some scrap hardboard, two holes with a Forstner and two straight cuts
and then a bit of hand sanding to fine tune the fit. The countersunk
holes keep the jig in place on the stock and need to be close enough to
the hardware to make sure that they are hidden after the furniture is
together.

The jig needs to be used with a collar and straight bit and the
dimensions of the openings will depend on both of those as well as those
of the hardware. However it is done, the mortise needs to be as precise
as possible since that is where most of the bearing strength comes from
while the screws, as long as you can wish, are there to keep the
hardware in the mortise.

We'll see how sending works here and if I need to I'll find another way.

Wow! This is the first time that I have seen a picture on this news
group. Special trick?

No, just went to the EasyNews NNTP server and posted as normal but with
an attachment. Had to do it that way because Eternal September
absolutely disallows this and I had forgotten about their limitation. I
normally would have posted a private picture on my website but this
seemed to be a little easier than digging into the site's structure with
FTP. There's no telling what my posting via two different servers will
do to the message threading.

Easynews was lax on allowing pictures into non binary groups years ago,
apparently still is, the problem is most other servers when they receive it
will either drop the entire post, or drop the picture.

Honestly, I didn't even think about the binary/non-binary divide when I
posted. Don't spend much time in the newsgroups these days.

If Derbydad3 has not seen the lousy picture yet, he should email me via my
website and I'll send it to him via email in reply. It is really such a
simple jig that a picture is really not needed -- a slot with rounded ends
cut into some fiberboard is it and the dimensions will vary depending on
what sleeve and bit you are using.

What website?

I figured you'd Google it. It is http://www.johnmcgaw.com, a rather sad and
outdated site if there ever was one.