On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 6:07:32 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 7/3/2016 2:31 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 7/3/2016 12:43 PM, trader_4 wrote:

I suspect you're his kind of conservative.

Now, if I'm not "YOU'RE" kind of conservative, then I can't possibly BE
a conservative?? Is that what you believe?


Wooosh! Right over your pin head. The fact is that someone who chooses
people who tell cops to **** off, resist arrest, while condemning the cops,
doesn't sound conservative. Nor someone that thinks it's govt's job to
extinguish every cigarette in America, that people shouldn't be allowed
the freedom to choose for themselves. THAT is what libs do, smoking,
now soda sizes, salt on restaurant tables.

I think you've been smoking something illegal after reading that short
paragraph.



On the smoking issue, clearly the conservative position is
that if you are an adult and you want to have a cigar dinner in a private
room at a restaurant, it's none of the govt's business.

CLEARLY, that is YOUR position, which doesn't automatically fall into a
conservative mindset.


Of course it does. Which once again demonstrates that you don't even
know what conservatives stand for today.

'Scuse you, but you shouldn't presume to define what conservatives stand
for today. Feel free to define what you believe, though.


Explain to us where in the
Constitution as the framers put it forth, it gives the govt the right
to deny people the right to have a private cigar dinner at a restaurant..
You think Madison would support your position?

Do you think it is the right of the people to pursue LIFE??


Yes, but you obviously don't. Pursuing life means the ability to be able
to have a cigar dinner in a private room at a private restaurant with out
silly libs like you banning it. I think paragliding and mountain climbing
are risky. Ok, now we need to ban it, because people die from it. See
how that works?




Have you forgotten:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are *Life*, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness. €”€”"

What does it mean to pursue LIFE?? It isn't just about pursuing liberty
or happiness.


See, once again you just proved you're no conservative. You're trying to
rewrite history, to try to desperately twist that into somehow giving
you the write to ban what people freely do in a private room, on private
property.




In fact, your kind of radical attitude is akin to
how many liberals approach how they respond to anyone they disagree
with. If you don't want people seeing you as being a liberal nutcase,
you need to reassess how you respond.


I'm the radical? Good grief.

You're a blowhard, and never listen to anything people say unless it's
someone stroking your ego and kissing your patootie. If you don't get
your way you resort to character assassination as if you think that
makes you sound superior or even smarter.


You're a troll who's been identified by some of your followers with
a variety of names, having embarrassed yourself in a variety of other
forums.



It just makes you look immature and unable to practice grown up self
control. Seriously, see a counselor.


Seriously, stop claiming you're a conservative.


I support the right of a group of people
to have cigar dinner in a restaurant. YOU are the one that wants to
control people, FORCE your ways on everyone. THAT is what libs do.

Wake up and smell the stench - the era of smoking is declining and the
idea that it's cool, healthy, and something to be admired has gone the
way of the dodo bird.


So, what? Square dancing has declined, I guess that means it's OK
to screw square dancers and deny them basic rights too.




Explain to us how banning a cigar dinner in a private room in
a restaurant fits in with being a conservative. You can't. It doesn't..

It's NOT a political issue - it's a HEALTH issue.


It's very much a political issue. Conservatives believe people should
have the right to have a bar where smoking is allowed and leave people
free to choose. Libs want to control it, tax it, because everyone has
to live like they do.