"Robin" wrote in message
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On 17/06/2016 13:31, Mark Allread wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:54:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Mark Allread wrote:

I just picked up a snippet of information showing that those who said
the UK is already negotiating its own trade deals is wrong as we aren't
allowed to do so whilst in the EU.

This means that we currently have no trade deal with USA, NZ,
Australia, China or India to name but a few.

We are still a member of WTO (twice in fact, directly as the UK where we
pay the membership fees, and indirectly as a member of the EU where no
fees are paid) so that would give as a basic trade deal with other WTO
members.

Yep, I get that.

But it wouldn't be a *free* trade deal, we'd have to re-negotiate those,

and that is where I was told I was wrong (along with others) and that the
UK would *not* need to re-negotiate any trade deals. Reference was made
to India as an example but what I have seen clearly states that we have
no current trade deal with India.


This is supposed to be a DIY group so can people please consider doing a
bit of research rather than posting "a bloke in the pub said" stuff? And
also please cite your sources?

Eg a quick look at the map at

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/html/149622.htm

will show the *EU* does not have "trade deals" in force with the USA, NZ,
Australia, China or India. But it is more advanced than the UK since we
can't do owt separate from the EU.

But is also likely to be hung up on something that is of no interest to us
like the protection of Spanish orange growers and Austrian Cuckoo clock
makers.

Getting a trade deal that has the support of 28 countries' vested interests
is going to be a lot more difficult than getting a deal where only one
country's concerns need to be considered.

Despite starting second, I bet that we can conclude an individual trade deal
with many of these important countries long before the EU does.

tim