"charles" wrote in message
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 17/06/16 15:31, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:47:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

But it wouldn't be a *free* trade deal, we'd have to re-negotiate
those,

and that is where I was told I was wrong (along with others) and
that the UK would *not* need to re-negotiate any trade deals.

Of course the UK would need to negotiate any trade deals, since
there are no deals in place currently between the UK and any other
nation. We could ask for any pre-existing EU deal to be the basis of
it, assuming that's what we wanted to have, but until that was
negotiated and agreed, there would be nothing in place.

You know that and I know that and the Vote Leave campaign knows that
but sadly from the exchanges on here too many Brexit supporters do
not.

Indeed we do not, because it is not true!

You don't need a trade deal to trade.

Who - apart from Whisky Dave - ever thought you did?

You, when you said we needed to negotiate any trade deals.

We dont.

The blatancy of your lying is staggering

Of course a newly exited UK could trade without any trade deals in
place, but it wouldn't be very competitive, compared to those nations
and groups of nations between which there were deals in place.


Which are very very few and far between in reality.

the whole 'EU free trade' issue is a total straw man. WE don't benefit
from it at all.

It means that UK manufacturer goods or services don't attract additional
taxation when sold/proviided to the rest of the EU. If you don't know
that, then you shouldn't be discussing the subject.

In many sectors the standard WTO tariff is negligible, it will make little
difference to our trade with the EU.

Only those sectors where tariffs are significant will we "need" to negotiate
a deal.


It will have almost no impact when we leave.

It will have amajor impact on sales to thn EU

Only if the EU wants to cripple its trade to the UK

tim