On Tuesday, 14 June 2016 17:00:55 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 13 June 2016 00:47:11 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Fredxxx wrote:
I'm thinking of my children, not having to compete with immigrants
from developing countries.

Then educate them. And instil in them a desire to work and succeed.

It's difficult with schools now as they keep changing the way they teach
and what,

The schools don't keep changing things. They are told to by a government
who always thinks it knows more about teaching kids than teachers.

The schools have to make the changes that is the point.


then you have a mass influx on non english speakers, so the teachers
end up having to help them more than anyone else.

If they can't speak English, no point in them being in an ordinary school..

Where are these non ordinary schools with places for them.
They don't exist.




They should be in a special language class until up to the same sort of
standard as their peers.

And poverty shouldn't exist and pain should be something only experienced in festish sex, yes we know the ideals.


I started school in the January after the september I should have started in due to an asian influx in the mid 1960s. They were short of classrooms so had to build a porta classroom in teh playground.
I was then immedailty put in the lowere achivers/remedail before the end of teh year the teachers even said I should be in that class but they didnl;t have anywhere
In the early 70s there was another problem occured my school, had a large influx which resulted in 3 studetns sitting at two desks and shared two chairs we had ONE book between us Kes which we shared.
It's not easy sharing a book one between 3 having to wait unbtil everyone had finished the page before turning. It only lasted a couple of weeks and we had a chair each but only two desks all term.




Most know that unless you can get a high level of education your chances
of a job is limited because the attitute is we can get them from
overseas almost immediatley rather than having to wait for them to be
trained up.

Right. So down to employers rather than immigrants? Odd then to blame
immigrants for stealing jobs.

I'm not blaming the immigrants I'm blaming the system that gets set up to deal with them.


Odd, isn't it? The right wing little Englanders consider themselves
the master race - but can't compete for a job with ill educated
foreigners who can't even speak English. In their own country.

They can compete on a level field, but when you have lots of peole
willing to work for far less than the minium wage because even at that
level it's higher than a good wage in their country they are prepared to
live 5 to a single room.

Isn't it illegal to pay under the minimum wage?

In theory, and only for those above 21 which rarely includes school leavers.
The minium wage there is £.30 for an appretnice for others it;'s a little higher. So all you have to do is say your employee is an apprentice.

government to blame for not enforcing their own legislation and employers
for taking the easiest route. But let's just blame the EU instead.

Who is the EU ?
Why are people leaving EU countires to work in other EU countries is not a fault in the system when they feel they have to to make a living.

What happens if the EU allows all the health workers to leave a country to work in another country, is this the idea behind the EU.



Whatever your skill is there's someone in another country that's willing
to do it for less. As I said it's happened to a friend of mine and it
will continue to happen, bur not everyone can ignore it.

Isn't that simply excellent capitalism?

I thought the EU was about socialism and fair play or perhaps that only applies to the EU leaders and their friends in industry

Competition bringing down prices?

No they are maintaining prices with tarrifs isn't that the threat.

Everyone on here thinks it's a flawless system. Except, of course, when it
has a direct impact on them.

Same for any system but I'll be alright I work for the system.


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Dave Plowman London SW
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