"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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michael adams wrote

But how many people voted Labour in the expectation
that it would be a Labour Government who would invade
Iraq, carry on with deregulation and bail out banks to the
tune of billions while allowing the bonus culture to remain ?

Irrelevant. The point is that when they **** up badly enough,
they are free to pull the plug on them the next time they vote.
And they did just that.

Except they didn't **** up. Labour pursued the exact same
policies a Conservative government would have implemented
if in office. Post Election, nothing changed at all. All that
happened was that his Old Etonian education had equipped David
Cameron with the importance of switching off Sky News throat
mikes before calling erstwhile supporters bigoted women. And
the importance of not looking like an unelectable nerd
incapable of defending his own goverment's record.

In the 80's and 90's a startling suggestion emerged that
the way to win elections was to appeal to the middle
ground. Both in manifestos and subsequent policies.
The core voters will still vote for you whatever you
do, its the swing voters who dictate elections.
And so that's what happened. While oldsters might
still like to think they're replaying battles from
the 70's and 80's, to young people New Labour and the
Conservatives - all they've ever really had experience
of - are indistinguishable. As far as they're concerned
voting changes nothing.

As indeed it can't as most policy questions are decided
by global economic factors totally outside any UK
Govt's control in any case.

The old adage of "at least you're able to vote them out
of office" simply no longer applies. You're still going
to get the same policies just different presentation.



and its the wrinklies who might well swing this vote.

I don’t believe that. IMO they are much more likely to not
bother to vote because they don’t care that much about politics.

Just a few words of advice. When posting total ********
its prefereable to post total ******** when can't be
refuted by one single link.

Nevertheless, as with having a child in the class
who's unabashed about asking questions, truly stupid people
such as yourself do serve a purpose. In giving people such
as myself an opportunity to expand on points already
made for the benefit of any others like yourself
there at the back of the class, but afraid to
speak up.

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How Britain voted in 2015

Patterns of turnout remain relatively unchanged,
with concerning implications for the future of
democratic engagement. There appears to be no
significant increase in turnout among young people,
with 18-24s almost half as likely to vote as those
aged 65% (43% vs 78%; in 2010 estimated turnout for
18-24s was 44%).

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...d-in-2015.aspx

/quote


There's a reason that the number who bother to vote keeps dropping.

That was explained to you already. Disengagement from politics
by younger people for the reasons given. However most polls show
that same age group to be much more in favour of continued EU
membership. A fact that may not be reflected in the referendum
result, if this is unduly swayed by xenophobic propaganda.

However if referendum poll sampling is weighted for age group
turnout from taken from GE's, but the young turn out in
larger numbers than in GE's then the poll predictions may be
wrong to that extent. If the campaigners have any sense that's
the age group they should be targeting IMO.

michael adams

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