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On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 9:08:20 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
Sam E brought next idea :
On 05/30/2016 03:46 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Sam E expressed precisely :
On 05/30/2016 06:13 AM, Al Gebra wrote:

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Voltage drop is represented by the formula E=I*R
Seems to me if the current flow is zero, then the voltage would be zero
as well.

IIRC, it's I squared R. Of course, it's still no voltage drop with no
current. Is it possible there's a confused poster here, who has R and
thinks it's E.

Power is E*I and since E=I*R power also equals I*I*R or I squared R.


Sorry for the error. I never claimed to be perfect. Although, it'd be hard to
make a mistake like that one (voltage drop with no current).

BTW, as to formulae I always liked P=IE.

You are correct that there is *no* 'voltage drop' with no current, which
is not the same as saying that the 'voltage drop' is zero.


While 'no' and 'zero' are different ideas, either should be correct here.

Voltage drop = I*R = 0v*R = 0v.


I have zero problems with dividing by no.

But with 'voltage drop' you can't have zero current, because 'voltage
drop' is all about the energy delivered to and dissipated by the
device, not the capability of the source to deliver voltage.

A stepper contactor relay's burnt contacts do not have a voltage drop
unless there is current flowing through them no matter how much voltage
the source can deliver to those closed contacts. There is no voltage
drop between the poles of a car battery, unless there is current
through it and some internal resistance to dissipate some of the
energy. Voltage drop is not a static thing like voltage is.


Neither Sam nor I ever said it was. We said that V = IR. With a current
of zero, V, the voltage drop is zero. YOU are the one that claims that
has "no meaning". I have 3 apples, I take 3 away, how many are left?

Aplles to start - apples taken away = apples left

3 - 3 = 0

That zero, in your world, apparently has no meaning either. It's really
sad, the state of education in America. Even worse when someone so
ignorant has the nerve to try to explain math and science to those of
us that understand it.