On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 5/29/2016 10:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 11:25:23 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 5/29/2016 9:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2016 06:19:08 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 29 May 2016 03:23:22 -0400, wrote:



Explain why there can't be a "smoker bar" or restaurant. If you are
offended or fear for your life, don't go near the place.

Employees.


We abolished slavery 151 years ago. If the employees don't want to
work around smokers, they can seek employment elsewhere.

Is that equal opportunity under the law? No.


Yes it is. If you don't like working in a bar or restaurant that
allows smoking, then don't, there are plenty others, right now
most of them, that don't allow smoking. You don't want to work
in a slaughter house or coal mine, you don't. See how simple that is?

Some people don't have a choice but to work where ever they can find a
job. It's the employers duty to provide a safe work place for all of
their employees.


Then ban offshore fishing, logging, etc. They are dangerous, have risks
to your health too. Some people might not have a choice and could wind
up there too. Of course, this whole issue about there not being a choice
is pure BS. You don't want to work in the bar that allows smoking,
work somewhere else, it really is that simple. This is just typical lib
BS, that people are being "forced" to work in smoking bars. YOU are
the one forcing people to conform to your ways. I say leave them free
to choose.




We had 2 restaurants here, same franchise, less than a mile apart. The
owner wanted to make one smoking and one non-smoking. The smoke
ninnies were not happy with that and he ended up closing the smoking
one.

Business owners are wising up to their legal obligations regarding the
environment their workers have to live in every day.

"LEGAL RISKS

Workers who are not currently protected by state or local laws that
create smoke-free workplaces nevertheless have legal options available..
For example, an employee could file a workers compensation claim
against an employer for illness or injury attributable to exposure to
secondhand smoke on the job. Such claims may increase an employers
workers compensation premiums, an employee could file a disability
discrimination claim that an employer failed to provide a €œreasonable
accommodation€�€”in this instance protection from exposure to secondhand
smoke€”if the worker has a disability (such as asthma) that is
exacerbated by exposure to secondhand smoke, or an employee could file a
claim that the employer failed to provide a safe workplace, based on a
common law duty."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931463/

This was a BBQ joint that was full of hickory smoke all the time,
selling high fat foods. (the last place I know of that still fries
potatoes in animal fat) Health freaks would not go to either of them.



What you just cited is another example of how the zealots work.

Zealots?? How do you figure?

I answered that below, read it:

They are never satisfied and will never stop. Above they are using
FUD and threats of legal action. Just what this country needs, more
lawsuits. If you have a restaurant and want to allow smoking, the
employees know about it, there is no such legitimate case. But with
a few million bucks from lib whackos, they sure could drag you through
hell and ruin you anyway.

It's a public health issue, and it's been proven that secondhand smoke
hurts people. Why's that so hard to grasp?


Why is it so hard to grasp that if I want to host a cigar dinner in a
private room at a restaurant and all those involved are OK with it,
it should not be
up to you to force us to not do it? Why is it so hard to grasp that
if some people want to have their own bar, where smoking is allowed,
that it's OK? No one is forcing you to go there. YOU are forcing us.