On 5/13/2016 9:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2016 13:14:46 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 5/13/2016 1:06 PM, Bod wrote:
On 13/05/2016 18:46, Muggles wrote:
On 5/13/2016 12:22 PM, Bod wrote:
On 13/05/2016 18:12, Muggles wrote:
On 5/13/2016 11:28 AM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2016 17:09:08 +0100, Bud Frede
wrote:

Muggles writes:

On 5/13/2016 8:38 AM, Bud Frede wrote:

You can just shrug your shoulders and blame everything on
something as
nebulous as "human nature,"

Human nature is not nebulous.

Point to it. Hold it in your hand.

All very good points, and more than I can be bothered wasting my time
with religious folk. She will keep her head stuck in the sand
forever,
because it's easier for her little brain.

Can you explain why our bodies work?


The answer can be found in evolution. Life started as a simple bacterial
amoebas.


Why do amoebas exist? Where did they evolve from?


You will find the answer in science. It's basically to do with elements
and chemicals reacting and creating new elements etc.
Similar to how Oxygen was created.

How Earth Got its Oxygen

http://www.livescience.com/5515-earth-oxygen.html

Why does it work?? Is it just an accident?


First of all, a very large percentage of "Christians" believe in
intelligent design, but not a litteral 144 hour creation. I am one of
them.
Look at Genesis 1, Vs 2.

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of
the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Notice - the eath WAS.

Then notice the progression
night and day
Earth and atmosphere.
Land and sea.
Vegatation
The entire solar system
Sea creature
Land creatures
Man

A sequence that HAD to happen in that precice order - and supported
even by the more progressive evolutionary minds.

Just happened????
Very doubtfull....

What exactly the "void and without form" consisted of nobody knows
for certain. No scientist of any standing even pretends to know.
No thinking christian will agree with a 144 hour creation 6000 years
ago.

Like with Atheists, there ARE a fair number of "non-thinking"
Christians. Neither Christianity nor Atheism has a lock on low
intelligence., and the HOW or WHEN of the "genesis" of life on earth
is NOT the central point of Christianity.
It is the WHO WHAT and WHY, not the WHEN or HOW

WHO did WHAT and WHY

5:6-11 Christ died for sinners; not only such as were useless, but
such as were guilty and hateful; such that their everlasting
destruction would be to the glory of God's justice. Christ died to
save us, not in our sins, but from our sins; and we were yet sinners
when he died for us. Nay, the carnal mind is not only an enemy to God,
but enmity itself, chap. 8:7; Col 1:21. But God designed to deliver
from sin, and to work a great change. While the sinful state
continues, God loathes the sinner, and the sinner loathes God, Zec
11:8. And that for such as these Christ should die, is a mystery; no
other such an instance of love is known, so that it may well be the
employment of eternity to adore and wonder at it. Again; what idea had
the apostle when he supposed the case of some one dying for a
righteous man? And yet he only put it as a thing that might be. Was it
not the undergoing this suffering, that the person intended to be
benefitted might be released therefrom? But from what are believers in
Christ released by his death? Not from bodily death; for that they all
do and must endure. The evil, from which the deliverance could be
effected only in this astonishing manner, must be more dreadful than
natural death. There is no evil, to which the argument can be applied,
except that which the apostle actually affirms, sin, and wrath, the
punishment of sin, determined by the unerring justice of God. And if,
by Divine grace, they were thus brought to repent, and to believe in
Christ, and thus were justified by the price of his bloodshedding, and
by faith in that atonement, much more through Him who died for them
and rose again, would they be kept from falling under the power of sin
and Satan, or departing finally from him. The living Lord of all, will
complete the purpose of his dying love, by saving all true believers
to the uttermost. Having such a pledge of salvation in the love of God
through Christ, the apostle declared that believers not only rejoiced
in the hope of heaven, and even in their tribulations for Christ's
sake, but they gloried in God also, as their unchangeable Friend and
all-sufficient Portion, through Christ only.
(Matthew Henry Commentary)


THAT is the central core belief of Christianity.


smile


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Maggie