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On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:46:38 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 06:52:12 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 10:35:27 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On 8 Apr 2016 01:56:38 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"

wrote:

On 2016-04-08, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 08:06:07 +0700, John B.

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On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:04:11 -0400, Ed Huntress
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The .25 ACP sounds like it should be about what you need. It
has a
small rim and an extractor groove ("semi-rimmed"), so you can
seat it
on the rim.

If I remember the .25 ACP has a primer. It might be mentioned
that the
quick draw crowd that uses/used wax bullets used a rifle primer
and no
powder to fire wax bullets. If he is trying to match the
ballistics of
a .22 CB it might be a solution.

Maybe. I don't especially like those things -- I've fired .32
S&W
Short and Long; .32 H&R Magnum; .38 Spl.; and .45 ACP with wax
bullets
and primers, using both a special wax made for the job and
plain
paraffin. They shot OK in my Ruger SSM, but not in my DA
revolvers or
my 1911 Colt. They either broke up or gave unreliable accuracy.
But
maybe some people have had better luck with them.

I've only tired that (with the wax sold for the task) with .38
special, and with the .22 Jet. The latter I used in my apartment
to get
roaches which would retreat into the corner of the ceiling of the
bathroom, and wave their feelers at me, saying "You can't swat us
here
-- to much obstruction." (Maybe so -- but the wax load did quite
well
for the job. I didn't have any really long range shots, but what
I did
use it for it was sufficiently accurate. :-)

Note that I always did the "cookie cutter" loading when the wax
was comfortably warm. (Shortly after melting and pouring it.)
Cold
would be likely to fracture during the process.

I've been saving wax from Gouda cheese, and I think that it
might work well for the task, too. Perhaps it is time to try
that
again.

Ohmigod. You should write an article about it if it works: "Gouda
Bullets for Indoor Roach Hunting" g I thought I'd try melting
some
beeswax with the paraffin, but I lost interest in the whole thing.
It's very illegal here and my wife could hear even the primer-only
loads from outdoors.


I also got roaches who ran back between the bottles of
developing chemicals in the kitchen -- but for that I used a
hypodermic
syringe loaded with 1,1,1 Trichloroethane (otherwise used for
developing
printed circuit boards. :-) No harm to the bottles, but one touch
of the
stuff and the roach was on its back. A water pistol might have
been
more convenient, but the stuff would dissolve the pistol before I
could
bring it to bear. :-)

You have a fresh take on very small-game hunting there, Don....


I'll tell you something that worked really well, though: a tiny
pinch
of Red Dot and a round ball, pressed down in the case. I only
tried
that with the .38, but it shot straight. It was too loud for my
basement, though. One neighbor's house is about 8 feet away.
g

Hmm ... I've got some intersting "bullets" which work well for
that in .38 special. The bullet is black plastic (Delrin,
perhaps?) and
the cartridge is red plastic with a primer pocket for large
pistol
primers, instead of the small pistol primers appropriate for .38
Spl.
Target was mounted on a large cardboard box, with an old towel
hanging
inside it to shed energy and drop them to the bottom of the box.
They
*would* go through the box cardboard, and would probably be also
quite
painful if you got hit with one.

I've seen those plastic/plastic rounds in a catalog. Again, I have
a
serious noise and legal problem with it.


I'm actually one bullet short -- perhaps I should try turning up
replacements from Delrin?

Another article! d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Enjoy,
DoN.

And then there's this "a salt" weapon. http://bugasalt.com/ . Clever
idea.


It looks like fun, but man, that's a lot of money to shoot bugs.

--
Ed Huntress (notorious cheapskate)


A squirt of diluted soap solution drops bugs quickly.
http://www.instructables.com/id/FREE...R-WORKS-GREAT/
"...one good spritz will wet the fly's wings and he will go down.
Another spray and he'll be dead in a few seconds."

Perched flies don't see rapid motion until too late. As your
wing-shooting aim improves you can tighten the spray pattern.

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/ratio-w...ent-82232.html

--jsw


Ohmigod. That sets a new bar for "small-game hunting." g

There may be a few other old farts here who remember Corey Ford's
column in _Field & Stream_, "The Lower Forty," from the '50s and '60s.
One column I'll never forget was about his hunting buddies --
cheapskates, for the most part -- looking for a way to practice
wingshooting before the upland game season opened.

They settled on flying insects -- dragon flies, flying grasshoppers,
and so on -- which they shot with .22 shot loads. It was hilarious.

There are several "Lower Forty" anthologies, but I don't know if that
column is contained in any of them. It would be worth a look if you
ever see them in a book store.

--
Ed Huntress