On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 5:24:57 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 06:36:54 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 9:16:51 PM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per trader_4:
That's nothing unusual. It's happened 10 times before with the GOP and
in 7 of those cases, the candidate with the most delegates did not wind up
the nominee.

Yes but..... My understanding is that Trump has the means and
inclination to run on a third-party ticket - and thus torpedo the GOP's
chances of winning.
--
Pete Cresswell

It's certainly possible. I wonder what the Trumpies think of that?
Suppose Trump winds up at the convention, doesn't have 1237, and the
convention chooses Cruz. Do most of the Trumpies think Trump should
run as an independent? I would think many of them are so delusional
that they would believe Trump would win if he did.

No one thinks a third party candidate can win.

No one? Not a single Trumpie? Trump himself? He believes all
kinds of nutty things, like thousands and thousands of Arabs were
celebrating in JC on 9/11 and that the president can make killing
a cop a death penalty offense with an exec order, he thinks everything
he does comes up winners, so why can't he believe he could win as
an independent?


The issue is, do the
reps hate trump so much that they will deny the PEOPLE CHOICE (Trump)
the nomination and instead hand pick one of the losers?

Picking Cruz or even Kasich is not denying the people's choice. It's
following rules that have worked for 150 years. If the rule was that
whoever get to the convention with the most delegates is the nominee,
well then that would be the rule. It isn't and for good reason. If
you can't win over half the delegates, something is wrong.



If they do
Trump has the power to make sure the reps lose the election. The
options for the RNC are to nominate Trump, the guy that MOST of the
PEOPLE want, then get behind him and hope to win in the general
OR
Screw Trump and if that makes him run third party be assured that
Hillary (or Bernie if hillaries in jail) wins the general.

So, you think if Trump shows up with less than 1237 and the convention
picks Cruz on the second or third ballot, following the established
rules, Trump should behave like a petulant child and screw the election
for the GOP?

Poor little Trump. He's running around whining now about how 10 delegates
in Louisiana went to Cruz. He's the tough guy that knows how to win.
He's the guy that's gonna beat China, Mexico, ISIS. But he can't even
win some of those ten delegates, because he just ignored the rules,
the procedure, and the process in Louisiana after the primary. Cruz didn't, had his guys on the ground and picked up the 10. Five of those were
Rubio delegates, five were delegates at large. That's what's going to happen
to Trump if he gets to the convention with less than the 1237. He'll
lose a few hundred delegates on the second ballot, poof they're gone.