This issue with 'cheap' vs neutrik:

You should all be aware, by now, that these connectors are all made
in China - that difference in price is solely a distribution and sales
issue - that quality is either demonstrated or not by the product
itself - associated by trade brand name.

Therefor; there's no point in complaining about the quality of a part
without identifying its brand name or mfr. Without this info, the
warning is meaningless, because price is no longer a valid identifier.

As an example, recent Neutrik connector types, not commonly stocked
domestically, were ordered at $25 a pop and delivered from Shuersi
Inc in Nanjing. Not cheap, good quality, reputable brand name from
China.

Expecting these things to be manufactured by gnomes in Luxembourg is
pure fantasy.

RL


On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:34:37 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote:


"legg" wrote in message news
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 20:07:16 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote:

Hmm, this might be a problem.

Have come across a couple of cases now where a cheap jack plug has become
stuck in a Neutrik combi socket.

http://www.neutrik.com/en/xlr/combo-i-series/


It looks like the cheap jack plug tips are not quite as rounded as usual.
This means that they get stuck fast in the Combi, though they work just
fine
in other jack sockets.


If you force them out, the tip of the jack will just not get past the
connector, but instead will just take it with it and destroy it, or the
jack
tip becomes separated from it's body and is left embedded in the Combi.


Not good.

Most likely due to poor quality control in plug mfr. 'Normally' you'd
expect to see the broken tip connector still attached to the central
conductor, which holds the whole shebang together with a single swage
in the wire connection area. It's a single piece. You shouldn't be
able to break this into two pieces with manual extraction forces. A
'grabby' socket terminal would distort and crumple first.

Equipment vendors will often add an advisory in their users manual to
use only parts complying to the standards, or mention specific mfrs
brand types. Sockets are not manufactured to deal with this type of
failure.

This is a simple plug and socket.

European standard is IEC60603-11.

You might mention the brand name or source of the broken part, so that
others can avoid it, rather than running down Neutrix. The latter are
exhorbitantly priced, but they work.

RL




That's the problem though, these cheap jacks are unbranded ****e, poorly
made.
I am not trying to run down Neutrik, I know how good their products are, I
personally don't use any other brand.


Problem also is, these cheap jacks make Neutrik look like the sole problem
since they don't get stuck elsewhere.



Gareth.