On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 5:17:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
pf, politics is what started this ****.

I see you think like me to some extent. Have ANY ideas on how to fix this **** without removing 90 % of the population ? I can't figure anything out.. Even massive killing wouldn't work. NOTHING will work.

I am not so sure we think much alike. My politics as-practiced are considerably left of center, although not quite socialist. Mostly based on personal responsibility, the social contract and the basic fact that the world owes me nothing.

At the same time, the Human Race if seen as the functional equivalent of mold on an orange is doing a very efficient job of killing itself off, and apparently sooner rather than later. No problem for me, likely not for the kids either. But the grandkids are going to have a brutal time of it. A few tens of thousands of years from now, we will of interest only to whatever passes for archaeology and paleontology at the time, if even that. So, why sweat the small stuff with that perspective?

As of this moment, and based on present absolutely provable facts and long-term trends, the Malaysian archipelago land mass will be reduced by 70% (or more) by 2050. The present population is just under 30,000,000. And there is not one damned thing that you, I, or anyone else, collectively and severally, can do about that. AND, that is one single example. Florida - what happens when 30% of that state can no longer support either farming or a human population? New Jersey (small loss)? The entire Gulf Coast? Not to mention California. Just keeping it "American" here - the rest of you are also quite done, just not fully aware of how done, quite yet.

That we are ****ed is absolute. That it is of our own making, equally so. But as a species we have always been better and destruction than at creation.. Always. This particular disaster is pandemic, having nothing to do with race, color, creed, nation, state, orientation or personal preferences. Like a flat tax, we are all equally affected whether we like it or not.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA