If you have an old TIVO, or can find a friend with one in the closet because
they upgraded, you can use it manually. You may have to interpret the time
& channel layout if it's from another area, but at least you can manually
program it to record certain times & channels.

WT

"Bill" wrote in message
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Does TIVO have a patent on all hard drive recorders for TV? Is it possible
to find a hard drive TV recorder that can be set up (with a built in timer
and not TIVO codes) to record like a VHS recorder does now?

Bill