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Default OT The truth about radiation at Chernobyl and Fukushima.

On 12/03/16 15:49, GB wrote:
On 12/03/2016 15:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/03/16 14:24, GB wrote:
On 11/03/2016 23:02, Rod Speed wrote:
GB wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Yes I heard from a person who has been on the tour that there are
indeed lots of animals there. However it kind of makes you wonder if
they survive

They do, the death rate of animals hasnt changed.

I bet you actually have a reliable source to prove that?

Yes, someone did do a proper survey. shouldnt be hard to find.

Off you go, then.

Anti Nuclear Lazy****


No, I'm none of those.

The link in the OP says:
"Wildlife havens?

Since the disasters, both sites have been devoid of human activity.
Images of these ghost towns slowly being taken over by nature has led to
many reports of the idea they have become wildlife havens. And indeed,
research in Chernobyl has shown some select populations are rebounding
in terms of their numbers.

But the absence of people does not make up for the radiation and its
effect on wildlife. Mousseau explained: "We realise - even more starkly
- the impact of human disturbance on natural populations when it seems
like even following a nuclear disaster, some of the populations have
rebounded and are doing better in the absence of humans. But the problem
with some of that kind of coverage is that it ignores the bigger
pictures and it obscures the more important question of the impacts on
these populations."



http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/EE...y-6101501.html


This starts off by saying:
"Several previous studies of the Chernobyl exclusion zone indicated
major radiation effects and pronounced reductions in wildlife
populations at dose rates well below those thought to cause significant
impacts. In contrast, our long-term empirical data showed no evidence of
a negative influence of radiation on mammal abundance,"

So, the evidence is mixed, to say the least.



No. the evidence is clear, especially when you look at who conducted
those early surveys that oh so conveniently coincided with their
prejudice and bigotry.



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