On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 17:20:17 -0000, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:34:32 -0000, Ralph Mowery
wrote:
Space is more of a problem in UK houses, so having no hot water tank is
good.
Guess that it all in where one lives. I have alway lived in a house. Grew
up in a town of about 20,000 and lived about 8 blocks from the middle of
town. House was about 1000 sq ft of living and another 200 feet of unheated
space.
I'm in a two bedroomed semi detached house (two houses in one building). I have 49 square metres = 527 square feet. Plus the garage which is being converted into living space, which is 18 square metres = 194 square feet. Before I removed two internal walls to make a much larger room, I was constantly cursing about bumping into things it was so damn small.
The other houses were somewhat larger and of town. Now have about 2000 sqft
on 3 acers. All had plenty of space for the water heater. I could see it
in apartment houses. Have not been in any of the large cities but would
think they would have a large tank or two for the building.
The other claim is it saves money to only heat what you need, but I don't believe that. If it's winter, the heat escaping from the tank simply heats the house anyway. If it's summer, you don't use much hot water anyway.
dryers are 240 volts and have a special plug for that,
I can put my dryer anywhere I want in the house. I'd find it very
annoying to have to rewire the house when I want to move it.
It does not take all that long for the iron to heat up. Takes too much
time
to iron the cloths.. Perment press came out years ago. We don't even
have
an ironing board. The jobs we have just require working and not dress
cloths. The wife will put a towel or something over the bar in the
kitchen
to do some ironing if we relly need something ironed.
Permanent press? What is that? Like a big trouser press thing?
The material is permanent press. You just take the warm cloths out of the
dryer and hang them up. Just don't let them get cold in the dryer. If you
do they will have all kinds of wrinkles in them. You can dampen them and
run the dryer for a short time if this hapens.
Nothing wrinkles after being in a dryer, but I don't use a dryer, it costs a fortune in electricity. I thought you meant there was a fabric that wouldn't be creased after being hung up to dry?
I heard the phrase permanent press 20 years ago, then it disappeared, so either we don't use it, or everything is.
So you can't use two 15 amp appliances in one room? That would be very
annoying.
Some rooms will be fed by 2 circuits. Especially the kitchen area where one
might want to run the instant coffee pot and toaster or microwave at the
same time.
And how do you know which outlet is on which circuit?
On that note, we have a stupid thing which is allowed in our code. Double outlets - two 13A sockets in one unit. But they can only handle 20 amps total! So if you run two 13A devices from it, you overload it and it melts. Only a few MK (a quality manufacturer) sockets are rated at the correct 26A.
I saw once a picture of double outlet for the USA, where the top one was
0v and 120v and the bottom one was 0v and -120v. So you could get 30 amps
total there. I guess you could then even have a 240v outlet in the
middle.
Most outlets are the double kind,but are wired to the same breaker so only a
total of 15 amps can be used. The outside one I mentioned that I put in was
wired so each side could actually get 30 amps at 120 volts
Doesn't that exceed the abilities of the contacts?
or there is a 240
volt outlet in the same box good for 30 amps. They are all connected to the
same breaker so the total of 120 and 240 can only be 30 amps.
You must have clever breakers, how does it add the current to three different sockets on different voltages and possibly different phases?
The code is for safety. Most items come with about 6 feet of cord, so
outlets are usually every 6 feet of wall space by the code. Several
circuits for the kitchen area.
So to stop you having wires to trip over? That's going way too far with
safety, I thought the UK was bad. The only rules we have for outlets is
when installed near water, like in the bathroom. For some reason the
rules are tighter than the kitchen, which has just as much water!
Some of the code is way above ,but guess the government is trying to prevent
people from doing stupid things.
What a crazy thing to do. If you prevent the stupid people from killing themselves, the stupid gene continues into the next generation.
They are regulating how hot the coffee can
be in restraunts now. Seems that a while aback someone got some hot coffee
at a drive through and spilled it on their selves and got burnt and sued and
won about 5 or 6 million dollars for that.
On her vagina no less. While balancing it and trying to drive at the same time. She should have been done for dangerous driving and got no compensation at all. If I was McDonalds, I'd be making the coffee stone cold, and putting a warning on the cup saying, "Due to ****wits like Mrs Liebeck, this coffee is cold. If you don't like it, phone [insert Mrs Liebeck's number]".
I did one wiring at my house that is not
to any code. Ran a # 10 wiring from the breaker box on a 30 amp breaker
to
an outside receptical ( actually a combination) where I can get 120 or
240
volts, but its main use is to hook up a 5 kw generator that I have incase
of
a power outage.
Ah, so it's actually an inlet? It would feed back into the house?
That was the main reason, Make it so I could use my gasoline powered 5 kw
generator to power part of the house if the power is out.
I bet that would really confuse an inspector :-)
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