On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:17:40 -0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:38:02 -0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 19:50:50 -0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:
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If you don't stop moaning about standards I'm going to post in html.

If you do it *properly*, it's no problem. But given your track record,
the chance of that is nil.

Html is not allowed in newsgroups, I thought you knew that?

Exactly *which* part of "*properly*" didn't you understand!?

How can something that's not allowed be done properly? It's ok officer, I was speeding properly.

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Quite impressive, declaring 'format=flowed', but then failing to
actually do so!

The whole point of format flowed is it flows. How can it flow if I
stick carriage returns into it?

Did anyone say anything about sticking carriage returns into the lines
you're typing?

You're moaning I'm not splitting my lines, now you're saying I don't
have to. Make up your mind. There are only two options. CRs or no
CRs, which do you want?

I didn't say you're not splitting your lines, I said they were too
long. You (seem to) think that's the same thing, but it's not.

To make something shorter you split it. Basic maths.

And no, there are not two options, but three. The third is
'format=flowed', which your newsreader fscks up (in both directions).

Apparently you don't understand what 'format=flowed' is (not) and how
it works / doesn't work. That's perfectly fine. The user doesn't have to
understand this under-the-hood stuff. (S)He should just use a compliant
newsreader. Yours isn't, or it is misconfigured.

It's configured the way I've decided is sensible - no wrapping. One
person reading my post might have a huge screen. Another person might
have a tiny screen. Whatever width I set will displease one of them.
So not wrapping at all means they can choose the width themselves.

Yes, what *you* *see* on *your* side is the way you want. But what
goes over the wire is fsck-ed up, because it *says* it's in
'format=flowed', but it isn't.

What they see on their side is ENTIRELY up to them. I have given no line breaks, so they can wrap wherever they want. I'm not stopping them.

Just give this up! You don't understand this under-the-hood stuff. As
I *said*, that's perfectly fine, but don't try to lecture people who
*do* know this stuff and see that you article - as it goes over the wire
- is fscked up.

Perhaps there are other people in these groups who use 'Opera Mail'
and can help you. (I could direct you to *the* appropriate group, but
with your attitude, you wouldn't survive there.)

It's ok, I don't want to converse with more sad anal people like you.

[More stamping of tiny feet deleted.]

Opera has always been the best browser aswell as mail and news client.
Before that I used Netscape for all three.

But you're right, your Opera Mail thingy probably fscks up mail as
well as it does NetNews.

It works better than any other mail or news client I've used, which is
why I use it. It has much more versatile and easier to use filtering
than anything else, that's the main reason I use it.

If Opera (Mail) works for you, then good on you, as long as you
realize that absolutes ("the best", "than anything else") don't exist,
as the discussed Opera Mail faults prove.

They're only faults in your OCD rule following opinion.

And no, 'my' newsreader isn't "the best" either. "the best" doesn't
exist. Period.

Of course it does. You can easily add up the good things about each one and say which is best overall. Just like they do with reviews on cars and washing machines.

(AFAIC,) EOD.

Oh do grow up.

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Peter is listening to "Aerosmith - Living on the edge"