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On 30/01/16 00:25, dennis@home wrote:
On 29/01/2016 23:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/01/16 18:04, dennis@home wrote:
On 29/01/2016 17:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/01/16 16:44, dennis@home wrote:
On 29/01/2016 14:34, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


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A VLAN will stop a device on one port talking to a device on another
port using a plain switch will not!

Actually it will.

No it won't!
Just download an IP address scanner app and it will find everything
(using IP) on any port.


Dennis. PLEASES read up about how a switch works, and why we HAVE
switches instead of repeaters. And why the little blinken lights on your
switch do not all blink at the same time but in pairs, because packets
are not on all segments simultaneously.


For heavens sake admit you are wrong.
Switches are layer 2 devices and are transparent so everything is
visible whatever you claim.
Vlan switches are not as transparent.


Please dennis, stop making a fool of yourself an READ UP on how they work.

Its embarrassing.

A leyer two router, is a switch and its NOT transparent.


I can assure you that you can ping every device connected to a switch
just as though they were connected to the same segment of ethernet.

So what? thats because they route the pings. I can ping almost every
device on te internet. That doesn't means I can read every packet on the
internet ..



And just because its perfectly possible to send a broadcast and get a
response back from every ethernet devices on a given network, doesnt
means that all those devices receive traffic OTHER than broadcasts on a
routine basiss.


How does that equate with your claim a switch will stop things talking
to each other?


I didn't say it would stop these talking to each other dennis. I said
that traffic between devices is not available to other devices and does
not occupy their segments.

Do9nt straw man me.



On a VLAN it won't.


VLAN is a security issue. It is not about traffic.

So first of all, you need to understand the basics


Go away and stop pretending you know anything new.


I see. In denial because you don't want to read up and learn, so you
never ever will.

The difference between you and me dennis, is that I like to learn, and I
am happier to pass a link to a well written piece of information that
explains what I am trying to say better than I can, whereas you wont do
that, preferring to present a case based on *your knowledge* and backed
with personal abuse.

But that is because I am here to learn and to educate, and you are here
to boost your inflated ego...


Snip cr@p that you can get out of google in three seconds.



Well, why dont *you* actually use google to check what you are saty9ing
before you make a fool of yourself?



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