In article , Chris
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and airplanes. nothing sucks more than a screaming baby nearby, or
worse, in the next seat.

And how do you suggest we ban 'crying babies'?

easy. have baby flights and no baby flights.

pax with babies take the former, pax who want peace and quiet take the
latter and pax who don't care can take either one.

at a minimum, put pax with babies in the back of the plane, so if one
does scream, those in the front, who are paying a premium fare to be in
the front, aren't bothered as much.

Sounds very much like segregation. That's worked well
historically, hasn't it?

Do you suggest we also have separate flights for loud drunks, the
obnoxious, ppl with bad breath, etc?

a loud drunk on a plane will generally cause a diversion, or at a
minimum, greeted by cops upon arrival.

obnoxious anti-social behavior is *not* tolerated.

there are places where babies are not allowed at all. guess why that
is.

that includes some restaurants, movie theaters, stage performances,
churches and synagogues, museums, schools and more.

These are all public places. Banning ppl from them is ridiculous.

it's not ridiculous at all and those are *not* public places.

they're privately owned. you are a guest, and you must abide by the
rules set out by the venue. if you don't, you'll likely be asked to
either cease doing whatever is causing the disturbance or leave and
forcibly removed if you don't.

put simply: people who cause a disturbance are not welcome.

some movie theaters even have a soundproof cry room to accommodate
parents who bring a baby to a movie. why a parent would do that i don't
know, but there are really bad parents in this world and movie theaters
to accommodate them.

That's utterly horrific! Why is taking a child to the cinema 'bad
parenting'? These ppl are part of society, not a section to be
shunned.

because they're not old enough to understand what's going on (and i
don't mean the story line).

movies tend to have loud moments, explosions, bright scenes, etc, and
that's *not* good for babies or even young kids.

Many cinemas in the UK have specific parent and child screenings,
which is a nice idea, but there's no ban or 'cages' for other
screenings.

having screenings for kids if fine. then the adults who don't want a
kid-free experience will go at a different time.

A more tolerant attitude to children and their parents (yes,
they're not keen on the noise either) would make everyone a bit
less uptight filtering down to make the kids happier and in
return, you.

more tolerant???

i once was on a flight with a kid behind me who kept on banging the
tray table, the one that was attached to my seat. he thought it was
fun. i didn't.

i asked the mother several times to do something and she did nothing.
she didn't give a **** and the kid knew that, so he did whatever he
wanted. that right there is bad parenting. i asked the flight attendant
to help and that wasn't any more effective. six hours of hell.

i'm supposed to tolerate that?? are you ****ing kidding me?

So should we ban kids on planes as well now? Or just their mothers?

babies are the ones that scream. some kids also do, but generally they
learned how to behave themselves when in public.

There are ****s all over the place and we all experience them from
time to time. Can't ban them all. That's life. Deal with
it.

nobody said all of them but those who cause disturbances *do* get
punished and/or banned.

go to a restaurant or museum or whatever and make a scene. you'll be
kicked out and quite possibly, asked never to return.

there are places where people expect to have peace and quiet. that's
what makes them happy.

Yup, but not in public spaces. Hence the term 'public' - they are
for everyone. If you want peace and quiet, live in the
mountains.

restaurants, museums, etc., are *not* public spaces. if you don't play
by the rules set out by the owners, you're not going to be welcome
there and *will* be removed by the cops if necessary.