Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 10/11/2015 23:37, Chris French wrote:
In message , Syd Rumpo
writes
On 10/11/2015 11:15, Chris French wrote:
In message , "Nightjar
cpb" "insert my surname writes
On 09/11/2015 21:25, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2015 19:59, Nightjar cpb wrote:
On 09/11/2015 16:30, harry wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/y-rEI4bezWc


AEDs are an excellent idea snip

Not so sure, genuinely. If the ambulance is only a few minutes away,

The target is that first response should reach the victim within eight
minutes. A transport ambulance should arrive within 19 minutes. Not
all calls achieve those targets.

Indeed, our village is 20 mins drive from the nearest ambulance
station,
- even blue lighting it I doubt they would do it in less than 15. Ok,
the ambulance might already be out somewhere, but that doesn't mean it
will be nearer.

why stop CPR while the AED takes measurements? This is valuable time
when blood could be circulating, albeit at a much reduced rate.

Part of the logic is that not everybody can do CPR, but anybody can
follow the instructions from an AED.


Yes, and the effectiveness of CPR is limited - it's not like the TV :-)
And even people who can do CPR, lots of them are probably like me and
somewhat rusty

De-fibrillation isn't like TV either - only a quarter of arrests are
AED 'shockable' arrhythmias, so three out of four times you'd be
wasting valuable blood-pumping time. As you know, even with a second
person setting up the AED, there is a considerable measurement time
during which the patient can't be touched.

I think it's a genuine problem, and I can't find clear-cut statistics.

TBH, life to short to worry about everything, I'll trust that some one
somewhere has seen that there is a benefit.

I'm confident I can do proper CPR, and have been trained in AED use as
well. If, as has been suggested, an AED is mostly of use where proper
CPR isn't available, and if an ambulance is only minutes away, then my
judgement may well be to continue CPR to keep the brain alive while the
experts come.

However, if there's an AED available there will be pressure to use this
perceived panacea and possible opprobrium if I don't. It seems the only
way to avoid problems for me is to use the AED, even if it would not be
the best interests of the patient.

Cheers

Don't these things send info on body functions back to base even if
shock bit not required that can assist informing person at site what to do?