On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:35:55 -0000, "Phil L"
wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
...
Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/11/15 17:26, Capitol wrote:
About 3 months ago, her machine started to throw itself around
the kitchen. I guessed at falling off weights as it's a pig to remove it
and left it alone. Having listened to her noises getting louder, I
decided to take the easy way out and buy a new hot and cold fill
machine. Sounds easy but it has taken weeks to find a couple. Today for
entertainment value I decided to try the local retailers as a source.
The first, a small local man, told me they don't exist any more and he
knows because the EU has banned them.

To be fair, hot fill is pretty rare - I did not know they still existed!

I quickly enlightened him that he
is incompetent in my best Victor Meldrew manner. The next call was
Currys, who proudly announced that they only sell cold fill machines as
they are more efficient and that mould growth in cold washing machines
is a problem that customers can live with. The third call was the local
Argos, who very nicely checked with their customer services that they
did not for some reason sell hot and cold fill machines. Before I go on
line and buy the Statesman machine, does anyone know if any of the major
manufacturers offer such a machine? I even idly considered rebuilding
the 10 year old machine, before common sense crept in! ie, new
bearings,seals, springs and timer.

The general consensus is: they admit so little hot water that buy the
time the pipe's run through hot or the combi's started up it's half full
of cold anyway.


Personally, I'd give up and just accept cold fill and base your choice on
other factors.
But I can buy the product I want. Do you give up that easily when
faced with a problem?


What he's saying (and correctly so I might add) is that you can only buy a
cold fill washing machine. You can *pay* for a hot and cold fill washing
machine, but you are still only *getting* a cold fill washing machine as the
water takes that long to get from the boiler to the machine that no hot
water will reach it, tepid perhaps, but not hot


The machine could just dump the first 3 or 4 litres to the drain,
after all, that's what you or I would do if hand washing.



--

Graham.

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