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Default Check your HVAC surge protector -- fail reports

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:27:57 AM UTC-4, westom wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 11:45:16 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
"To protect TV2, a second multiport protector located at TV2 is required."


So how many $thousands will you spend? TV2 needs one. Every radio needs one. How do you install one on each GFCI? Dishwasher needs one. Stove needs one. Every recharging appliance needs one. Each dimmer switch needs one. How do you put one on every smoke detector? Every kid must be carefully trained on how to connect his Xbox to the TV. Otherwise Xbox can be damaged. Every LED bulb needs one. Are you really that dense?

One earths a 'whole house' protector for about $1 per protected appliance.. Then has properly sized protectors that do not fail - or cause fires.


From the IEEE:


http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lhm/IEEE_Guide.pdf

"A few panel protectors have circuitry that allows them to combine a low surge
limiting voltage with the capability to withstand 240 VAC phase-neutral voltage.
However, they do not
stop the excess voltage from passing to the connected equipment downstream.
Plug-in (point-of-use, or supplementary protectors) are the main defense against
sustained AC overvoltage events. For complete protection, plug-in protectors
should be used in conjunction with the panel protectors described here. These
SPDs are normally located at the protected equipment and are discussed in
Section 5 of this Guide."

Section 5 is an entire chapter on how to use plug-ins, but obviously
you just continue to ignore the whole thing, except for that one
diagram you have a fetish for selectively taking out of context and
misrepresenting.


So you finally decided to admit to ignorance - did not know about protector fire and that recent recall of so many APC protectors:
"Recall of 15 million surge protectors due to fire hazard"
https://forums.thefirepanel.com/view...hp?f=26&t=6334
The firm has received 700 reports of the surge protectors
overheating and melting and 55 claims of property damage
from smoke and fire,



Nice, you finally provided a link. So, APC has had a recall of surge
protectors that were manufactured back in 2003. But you
didn't answer the related question. GM has recalled some cars recently.
It happens. Does that mean that all cars manufactured by all manufacturers worldwide
have dangerous defects too? If they are all inherently dangerous and cause
fires, why hasn't CPSC ordered them all recalled? Why does UL continue
to test and certify them to their standards? Many plug-in surge
protectors are used similar to an extension cord. How many fires are
caused by extension cords?