On 10/7/2015 2:52 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 10/7/2015 12:31 PM, Muggles wrote:

But, if *I* have to fill in for him, some day, I'll find all of
those times *wrong*! And, not be sure *why* that's the case!
E.g., I showed up for his 7:50 appointment, but the other party
was 10 minutes late! And, this pattern continued throughout the
day! "Gee, he's sure working with a bunch of TARDY individuals!"

Is it a common practice for you to show up for someone elses
appointments?

You may be committed to an appointment that someone else scheduled.
E.g., if a client schedules an appointment at 7:50, is that because
HE is always late and really wanted to ensure he'd make the 8:00
appointment? Yet, in picking 7:50 has committed everyone else to
pay for his "tardiness problem"?

ahh gotcha ...

[...]
I'm not sure that's a really fair example. Who's going to be changing
the clock display while you're preparing cookies? OTOH, I understand
your point.


What if it was a longer duration period? Or if someone else has control
over that? There's nothing that *prevents* someone from walking into the
kitchen and changing the time on my timepiece!

That's true. But, even if they changed the actual time on the clock,
wouldn't the duration be the same?

light is a means to measure time, does it travel in a straight line in
outer space or travel by a curve, OR is the speed affected by the
gravitational pull from the different objects IN space and that
gravitational pull can either either speed up or slow down the speed of
light? How can we determine the age of objects in outer space if we
don't have a valid method of measuring time?

How can you know they even exist?

It makes for very interesting discussions especially when some people
insist on a particular viewpoint without even considering other
possibilities.

There are very few "black and white" issues. Even "black" and "white"
come in shades of grey... :

yeah!

By carefully examining/dissecting opinions/beliefs you can get to the
*real* issues that are differentiating among them. But, that usually
requires more effort than many folks want to invest -- easier to just
settle for "approximations" (and then GENERALIZE from that! : )

I like analyzing all that stuff.

I recall the first time I was exposed to the concept of "telescope as
time machine" -- instead of as a means of "gazing afar". It was so
incredibly obvious AFTER it had been pointed out. Yet, in most
folks' minds, it's still a device to look over long distances!

I've never heard of that particular concept, but it makes sense to me.

--
Maggie