On 03/10/15 20:31, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/10/2015 19:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/10/15 19:08, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/10/2015 19:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/10/15 17:48, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/10/2015 16:13, Richard wrote:
"RJH" wrote in message ...

On 02/10/2015 20:05, dennis@home wrote:
On 02/10/2015 15:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
michael adams wrote:
But surely, when they're running normally they're not being
tested so
they don't need to cheat. They can just belch out as much crap as
they
like, allegedly, and no-one is any the wiser.

Odd. I've been noticing smoke and nasty smells from new diesels
for
years.
I know you can't smell NOX - but in theory all those cars should
pass a
visible smoke test at MOT time. So guessed if they smoke when it's
said
they don't, they were probably producing lots of other nasties
too.


Ther have been quite a few reports about the air quality falling
with
more particulates and NOX. Now we know why the quality is getting
worse
despite better controls, VW have wrecked it for everyone and they
should
be sued by every asthma sufferer and any other illness that can be
caused by the cr@p they aren't supposed to emit but do.

Quite. They deserve to go under. But the government should take a
hit
too.

FFS, you and Dennis need to get a grip. It is the climate change
lobby
which needs to go under - preferably six feet.

This has nothing to do with climate change you idiot.

Actually it has, the whole drive to lean burn diesels was to meet CO2
emissions reductions. OK CO2 doesn't change the climate, but the
recieved wisdom is that it does.




Actually it hasn't the cr@p emitted doesn't do much to the climate.

Yes but the reason it is emitted, is.



No, its because of the health problems caused.

Are you seriously claiming that the reason the diesels emit crap is so
as to cause health problems?


--
Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the
world it's not directly responsible for.