"RJH" wrote in message
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On 02/10/2015 20:05, dennis@home wrote:
On 02/10/2015 15:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
michael adams wrote:
But surely, when they're running normally they're not being tested so
they don't need to cheat. They can just belch out as much crap as they
like, allegedly, and no-one is any the wiser.

Odd. I've been noticing smoke and nasty smells from new diesels for
years.
I know you can't smell NOX - but in theory all those cars should pass a
visible smoke test at MOT time. So guessed if they smoke when it's said
they don't, they were probably producing lots of other nasties too.


Ther have been quite a few reports about the air quality falling with
more particulates and NOX. Now we know why the quality is getting worse
despite better controls, VW have wrecked it for everyone and they should
be sued by every asthma sufferer and any other illness that can be
caused by the cr@p they aren't supposed to emit but do.

Quite. They deserve to go under.

Maybe, but its far from clear that that would be good for car consumers.

But the government should take a hit too.

Like hell they should. They were the ones that imposed very stringent
emission standards in an attempt to do something about the smog
and health problems that vehicle emissions produce.

Yes, it would have been better if they had themselves done
some real world testing of the kind that did expose the
scam, but it isn't even possible to make govts take any hit
when they didn’t. A demand for that is just naïve silly stuff.