"Tim+" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:08:26 on Fri, 2 Oct
2015, bert remarked:

But if you insist on singling out particular stages in the process
as
representing
"cheating" and "not cheating" then its fairly obvious, to most
people at least,
that they were cheating during the tests, rather than afterwards.

Either way it's the *testing* mode that will be extended to cover all
circs, so that emissions are reduced. Feel free to say that therefore
they will be cheating the whole time.

They'll be using "cheat mode" all the time.

They are cheating all the time

It's unhelpful to confuse the issue with terminology like that. People
are confused enough with others stirring it up.

but only using cheat mode when being tested.

At the moment, but one possible (but I believe unlikely - it's going to
be an Adblue retrofit I suspect) outcome of the recall is to have the
vehicle in that mode permanently.

Or, on VWs with selectable driving modes, make the clean mode the default
but leave "sport" or other modes available. Then the owners can choose.
This is the only way I can think of that won't **** off owners AND satisfy
regulators.

That would never satisfy the regulators.