On 9/18/2015 10:06 PM, krw wrote:
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:15:44 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/18/2015 1:24 PM, krw wrote:
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:36:30 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 8:37 PM, krw wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 23:04:48 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/16/2015 7:30 PM, krw wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:19:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/15/2015 8:08 PM, krw wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:36:36 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

Looks like the SawStop competition is heating up. This is a pretty good
review of the job site saw by a Bosch rep.

Nice to see that the SawStop patents did not choke the competition as
some thought might happen.

The fat lady hasn't taken the stage.

Actually she has. The saw is on the market, that is all it had to do.

Not so. That's only the start of the opera (Gass now has no trouble
proving damages).

Would have already happened.

He *can't* until the saw comes to market.


But I think it has come to market. And Gass being a patent attorney I
would think he would be right on top of that.

Exactly. The saw has hit the market and Gass has sued. Check back in
two to five years and we should know the rest of the story. Until then
no one knows what a mess the courts will make out of the situation.

OJ, I was unaware of that. I look at a lot of trade publications, do
you recall where you learned that?

It was posted here a couple of times but I found it in the first
couple of hits searching for "SawStop Patent". I was just looking for
the numbers. ;-)

Anyway, it will be
interesting to see how this plays out. Hopefully there is enough
difference that Bosch continues to produce the saw. And who knows maybe
Bosch made a deal with Gass, there have been stranger bed fellows.

I think the deal is the most likely scenario but there is at most four
or five years left on the basic patents. Bosch might even be trading
off some (perhaps reduced by the courts) royalty payment now for a leg
up on the market five years down the road.

Yeah I was thinking the same and just realized that the SS came to light
about 15 years ago. IIRC production began about 8~10 years ago.

The original patents were filed in 1999, so that makes their
expiration date 2019. There are other patents but they're not very
likely to be difficult to get around.

That sounds right time wise. There are a ton of patents. There is a
long list of them on a label attached to my saw.