On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 20:28:27 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 06 Sep 2015 22:14:41 -0400, dgk
wrote:

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 14:41:06 -0700, "taxed and spent"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

So? **** Happens or Bad Work?

I cannot imagine anything that would lift up adjacent tiles, the
sole
exception being something that expanded as it cured (like foam). If
the latter, it should not have been used...the only thing that
should be used to stick down floor tiles on a slab is either thinset
(cementatious) or mastic and, personally, I wouldn't use mastic.

What I do know is that you were screwed royally on the price...$900
to replace 12 tiles is ridiculous..

reading comprehension is just not your thing, is it?

So enlighten me, O Learned One. OP said 12 tiles were worked on and 6
of
the 12 were replaced. It is a ridiculous price, shouldn't take one man
more
than half a day even if he loafed most of the time.

It's not clear exactly how many were actually replaced, but I agree
with you that from the description, it doesn't sound like it was a lot.

Let's do some math.

"Around 20 tiles (9 1/2 " tiles) are now no longer attached to the
floor.(snip)
The owner offered to repair the damage for half price, around $700."

2 X $700 = $1400
$1400/(around 20) = around $70/tile before the discount (Wow!)

"The whole" (original) "job was just under $900." Can we assume no
discount?
None was mentioned.

(just under $900)/(around $70/tile) = just under, around 12.86 tiles
repaired
as the original job.

I think my math is correct, but I hope not. 900/(2*700/20)= 12.86

$70/tile for a repair job? As I said earlier...Wow!



I think this is a case that is screaming for the facts to be known.
Something is not right in the OP, even if we try to parse out the language.


Fair enough. Photos and the work map. I don't know that they did all
the tiles with the X in the map. EIther they were reset, or a hole was
put in the grout and adhesive was pumped in. I hope this link works
for all of you and not just me.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/276109...57657871631940

Wow. Save these pictures. If you cancel t he payment and the credit
card company backs you up, and he sues you, or if you sue him, you're
going to need a floor authority, a tile installation tradesman to
testify for you or at least write you and affidavit that he saw the
damage, or at least the pictures (I can see that the 2nd, 3rd, and maybe
the 4th row back are all uplifted ** and that the repairs were done
improperly and best if he knows what can make this sort of things
happen and can say what make s it happen and why it shouldn't have been
done that way.

The proof seems like it shoudl be in the pudding, in that it turned out
so bad, but judges want testimony or an affidavite from someone
experienced in the field. On letterhead stationery or maybe on their
invoice. But it can't just say, "Tiles dislodged during repair."
Everyone knows that. It has to say that the fault, the mistake, the
error is the original guys's failure to do the job correctly. It
shoudl take into consideration the original installation of the tiles
that got upplifted. Someone suggested it was all done wrong, but the
house is several years old.... I forget if the problem he created with
these new tiles is the same problem he was fixing on the tiles he was
fixing. If so, that's bad for you legally and morally. The counter
argument will be that I was there to fix N ties for this very problem,
and these new ones woudl have developed the same problem
eventually/soon.

Even though you only paid him 900, that doesn't mean you are limited to
that amount when you sue. What you are limited by is how much damage
he did. Someone can do a 10 dollar repair to a car and in doing so can
negligently set fire to a 30 thousand dollar car, and owe the owner
30,000. Businessmen have to consider this when they set their prices
and when they decide if they know how to do a job or not.

The contract you signed might be a problem, but I don't think it's
enough to make you lose the case.

**And in this case being uplifted isn't good.

If you can dislodge from one corner or in front of the closet, I'd
repair what I have there and use new tiles to make some corner, or edge,
or doorway out of a contrasting color or pattern. It's not likely but
maybe you can buy more tiles just like these.

And I'd go back to the real estate agent and tell her what a bad job he
did.


And can't you bring some of the adhesive to the guy writng the etter,
and won't any guy worth his salt konw what it is when he see it and
whetehr it was the wrong thing to use? Or is that bad for you? I
don't care if they did install it worng in the firrst place Maybe that
lessens your recovery but what this repairguy did was the proximate
cause of all your problems. Even if it had been installed wrong, you'd
been using it for years with ... no problem except the reason he was
there. Like I say, I don't know if that is related to your current
problem.

Thanks. I don't think that it's worth trying to fix the current mess.
I don't have any of the adhesive. I don't think I even saw the stuff.
I was working in another room when most of this was being done.